George Santos Confronted: Dr. Phil Asks the Questions Everyone’s Avoiding

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 13.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Former Congressman George Santos—expelled from the House and facing 23 federal charges—sits down with Dr. Phil for an unflinching conversation about fraud, lies, and whether his next chapter will be redemption… or prison.

He’s one of only six lawmakers ever expelled from Congress—and now, George Santos is staring down 23 federal charges ranging from donor fraud and identity theft to credit card scams and lying to the public. In this no-holds-barred conversation, Dr. Phil presses Santos on his alleged deception, challenges his explanations, and asks the questions millions want answered: Why did he do it? Can he make things right? And is he prepared for the possibility of prison? Plus, Dr. Phil offers Santos candid advice on what it will take to win over a jury—or the public—if his fight for freedom goes to court.

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0:00.0	I have one guest tonight. He is a liar. George Santos. You've led people to believe you were Jewish. Always said Jewish. My grandparents survived the Holocaust. True. My mom was a 9-11 survivor. She was downtown Manhattan on 9-11, sir. When the plane's hit. I mean, I don't know if she was there when the planes hit after or whatever. Look, this is your chance to be straight.
0:21.9	Dr. Phil, I could cure cancer.
0:23.4	People would nitpick at it.
0:24.7	If you are a truth tell her, you suck at it.
0:26.9	I have a truth tell her, you suck at it.
0:37.1	Well, I have a question for you. How many of you know someone that if you were honest,
0:42.6	you would have to say, were they just a liar? Well, lots of people are. My good friend Pam Myers
0:52.5	wrote a fabulous book you should read called Lie Spotting.
0:56.7	She reports that you get lied to 10 to 200 times a day.
1:03.1	Many are white lies like, does this make me look fat?
1:07.9	And many are not.
1:10.0	Strangers, you lie to an average of three times
1:13.6	in the first 10 minutes.
1:15.6	You lie to them more than people you know.
1:18.6	Men lie mostly about themselves,
1:21.6	eight times more than women, who lie mostly to protect others.
1:25.6	Married? You lie to your spouse, one out of every ten times you open your mouth.
1:31.3	Dating?
1:33.3	One in three.
1:35.3	College, you lie to your mom one out of every five times you talk to her.
1:39.3	Importantly, you can learn when people are lying
1:43.3	with a high degree of accuracy.
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