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On today's politics and more podcast, David Remnick talks to staff writer George Packer about

the terrorist attacks in Paris last week and why neither Russian involvement nor a stronger

U.S. response is likely to resolve the crisis in Syria anytime soon.

This week, I've been thinking above all, as I'm sure you have about the attacks in Paris,

about what they mean for the people of Paris,

for the Syrian refugees in Europe, for all of us.

George Packer is a staff writer for the New Yorker.

He's written about the Iraq War and about domestic politics in the United States,

and he recently wrote a long article for the magazine about the lives of Muslims in France.

George, you spent quite a long time in the suburbs of Paris and the Banlieu talking with people,

and they must have had a lot to say about what's been happening in the last 10 days or so.

I asked the main character, as we say in the business, of that piece, Fuad Ben Ahmed,

what it was like this time compared

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