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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Thursday, September 12th. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor of The New Yorker.

In President Obama's address to the nation on Tuesday night, he had intended to make the case for attacking Syria, but instead he asked Congress

to postpone a vote authorizing the use of force. Over the last few days, we've seen some

encouraging signs. In part because of the credible threat of U.S. military action, as well as

constructive talks that I had with President Putin, the Russian government has indicated a willingness to join with the international community

in pushing aside to give up his chemical weapons.

John Lee Anderson and George Packer are here to talk about the current strategies being pursued

by the United States and Russia and what got us to this point.

George, this has probably been the most tumultuous few weeks in Obama's presidency.

What led up to his address on Tuesday night, where he seemed to be arguing both for military action and from diplomacy?

I think the first thing that led up to it was his sense that he was going to lose.

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