On To the Point, we try to make sense of the policy debates and the political sideshows on the campaign trail.

Neither party's agenda really aligns with who its coalition is today.

It was the dumbest speech I have ever seen in my life of covering politics.

When people walk into a voting booth, at the end of the day, they do say,

I really should vote for someone smarter than me.

I'm Warren Alney. To the Point has you covered for the 2016 campaign. Find the To the Point

podcast on KCRW's iTunes page. From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's the treatment. It's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell.

This is the 20th year of the show, and it's always good to have somebody I've spoken

to before singing across from me.

And my guest today, the Academy Award winning director, George

Miller, I've known for almost 40 years now. I first interviewed him in 1982 for the Road Warrior,

and it was one of my favorite interviews ever. I've had a chance to talk to him a couple of times since then.

He is here for the newest installment of the Mad Max series, Matt Max

Furry Row. So George is so good to see you again.

1980, too, and the first director you went through, that's amazing.

It's gone pretty well for you since then, but...

Yeah, and you too. I mean, we're still young men, I think.

Well, you are.

Yeah.

And we talked about so much, and so much what we talked about was about the psychological

import of film.

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