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george farmer george i'm i'm pleased to have you join rules for retrogrades i wanted to have you

have you on the show for a long time and uh we've nearly crossed paths several times and it's just been it was a joy to shoot the bowl

around with you a little bit before we went live now welcome to rules for retrogrades

thanks for coming on with me hey tim it's great to be here thanks for having me up a fellow brother

in christ who also we found out the other day by phone also calls Michael Knowles M.K. Ultra.

Why, George, this is my first interview question for you.

Why has this nickname for Michael Knowles not gained more steam, M.K. Ultra.

It's the dopest nickname ever.

He's never given it any traction.

He has it. He needs to get out there and start using it himself. That's the problem.

It would be perfect for him. Like, he is MK. Ultra. That is the thing. He is MK. Ultra.

And it's just like we've completely failed to capitalize on this perfect nickname for him

it's so perfect it's like i found out that um my favorite tv show of stranger things i found out that

it it was originally going to be called project montaac and it's got all these connections to

mk ultra and yeah when i first started calling him that i was hoping it was just

like you said that our mutual friend knolls would be like oh i didn't know george farmer was in the

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