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Visit your nearest showroom. Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast, I'm Charlie Sykes. Our guest today really needs no introduction.

George Conway has been a, not only a prominent lawyer,

but obviously a persistent and eloquent Trump critic

and he joins us.

I'm vermin.

You are too.

I know.

Well, welcome fellow vermin.

Right, this is a vermin podcast.

This is the question that I wanted to ask you, George, because you, I mean, do you know how

Donald Trump's mind works? Do you know it goes on up in that lizard brain? And if you do,

explain his choice of the word vermin is

it's not a random word right I don't know the inner workings of the man's

mind and that's a good thing that I really cannot fathom the inner workings of

his mind I can tell you that he meets all the criteria for somebody with narcissistic personality disorder and I don't think you need a degree to know that.

I think you just need a copy of the DSM-5.

And I think he meets all the criteria for antisocial personality disorder, i.e. is a sociopath,

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