Hi folks, Jack Spirco here. Today you are listening to an episode of TSP Rewind.

Commercial-free versions of past episodes. Podcasts blasts from the pasts. I put these up when I can't do a show due to professional commitments or rare vacations. These podcasts will appear in standard iTunes, Stitcher, and other feeds, but will be titled

TSP Rewind Episodes and numbered accordingly.

And today, folks, we are rewinding back to just May 26, 2023, so just a couple, two

and a half years ago, roughly.

This was Jeff Lawton on ancient food forest irrigation and more.

This episode happened because I reached out to jeff and said i have got to get you on to talk about this he posts a lot of

really cool stuff as he travels around the world to his youtube channel but the videos that he posted

that led to this were beyond amazing.

They were of an area in the middle of the desert that was intercepting springs that were caused by clouds colliding with porous rock mountain peaks

and creating one of the most amazing productive systems

that probably exists anywhere in the world, let alone exists in the middle of a desert.

And the technology being used in these production systems was so exceptionally innovative, so exceptionally high tech in its way, and yet extremely

low tech and ancient.

You know, when we talk about there were advanced societies in the past, I think this, not

necessarily this thing, but this is the type of thing we are talking about.

It doesn't mean like some cartoon with Atlantis and people driving around in George Jetson floating cars.

What it means is that humans are incredibly intelligent and innovative as a species,

and that thousands and thousands of years ago, even beyond recorded history,

which these don't go back beyond recorded history, but even if you go back beyond recorded history, you go back, you know, more than 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 years ago, your ancestor that was walking around on two feet, 30, 40, 50,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago, intellectually was as advanced as you are today.

When I say that, I don't mean that they knew the things that you know today.

That's not possible.

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