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Genocidology (CRIMES OF ATROCITY) with Dirk Moses

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2024

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Summary

The world is confusing, but there are experts in everything. In our least funny episode ever, we thankfully convinced a global expert, professor, researcher, author, and Genocidologist (it’s a real word) Dr. Dirk Moses to answer the questions that we may secretly have: What exactly is genocide? How long has it been happening? Is it a war crime? Is it a crime of atrocity? Who makes up humanitarian law? What's self-defense — and what's offense? How is it litigated? Whose business is it? Why do we do this to each other? What can be done? It’s a dense, long episode with lots of asides for history and context, but it might be just what you need to give you perspective on the conditions — and cycles of trauma — that can lead to crimes of atrocities. Follow Dr. Dirk Moses on X Read his book, “The Problems of Genocide: Permanent Security and the Language of Transgression” A donation went to student tuition at City College of New York More episode sources and links Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes Other episodes you may enjoy: Indigenous Fire Ecology (GOOD FIRE), Indigenous Cuisinology (NATIVE FOODS), Indigenous Pedology (SOIL SCIENCE), Ethnoecology (ETHNOBOTANY/NATIVE PLANTS), Bryology (MOSS), Black American Magirology (FOOD, RACE & CULTURE) Sponsors of Ologies Transcripts and bleeped episodes Become a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a month OlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes! Follow @Ologies on Instagram and X Follow @AlieWard on Instagram and X Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions, Jacob Chaffee, and Jarrett Sleeper of MindJam Media Additional producing and research by Mercedes Maitland Managing Director: Susan Hale Scheduling producer: Noel Dilworth Transcripts by Aveline Malek Website by Kelly R. Dwyer Theme song by Nick Thorburn

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just a content warning up top this episode contains information about crimes of atrocity and

0:04.8

mentions of the murder of civilians and children sexual violence the holocaust racism

0:10.7

religious prejudice and of course, genocide.

0:14.0

It's also at times a general bummer

0:16.0

and does not reflect the usual light-hearted and comedic tone of all theges.

0:20.0

Also, I happen to be recovering from laryngitis right now.

0:23.0

I apologize for the quality of my voice.

0:25.0

Also, there are a lot of break-in-a-science for context and history.

0:29.0

There's a lot of it just to help you keep up with the expert's references and to recap.

0:34.5

Oh hello, it's a science podcaster and not a humanitarian rights lawyer, Ali Ward,

0:39.4

with an episode we all wish didn't exist.

0:42.4

It's an episode on genocide, which is historically

0:45.0

deeply complex. It's a legal issue, it's a trauma issue, it's a finally woven political

0:51.1

strategy. Before this interview I didn't know a lot about genocide

0:56.1

really even technically what it meant. So I wanted to talk to an expert in the

1:01.5

science and the sociology of genocide.

1:04.3

I did a ton of research, all roads led to him.

1:07.6

I even ask the opinion of other experts in the topic who said,

1:11.5

interview this guy. So we we did I was fortunate that he made time for us and if there's ever an episode to be brave and ask a brilliant person, not brilliant question, it's now.

1:25.8

What is genocide?

1:27.0

How long has it been happening?

1:28.9

Is it a war crime?

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