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The Owen Jones Podcast

'Genocide': UN Official Resigns With Bombshell Warning

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

Genocide is not a word which should be bandied around without good ground. So when a senior UN official resigns warning about genocide in Gaza, and hundreds of genocide experts warn of the same thing, then have to listen urgently - before it's too late.

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0:00.0

Genocide. That is a word which should be used sparingly, always. There are many horrors and atrocities

0:05.7

committed throughout history which are hideous enough on their own terms without constituting

0:11.4

genocide. Now in my own view, when there are those who are specialists and experts in the field

0:16.8

of genocide, when they start warning about genocide, then I believe the very least you can do

0:23.9

is to sit up, listen urgently because of the obvious stakes involved. Now this brings me to

0:31.5

Craig Mockerber. Now he is the director of the New York office of the UN High Commissioner

0:37.9

of Human Rights, at least he was, because on 28th October he wrote to the UN High Commissioner

0:42.8

in Geneva, Volker Turk, and in that letter he wrote, this will be my last communication to you.

0:49.4

That's because he resigned. Let me just read what he wrote and please do listen carefully.

0:54.3

I write at a moment of great anguish for the world, including for many of our colleagues. Once again,

0:59.2

we are seeing a genocide unfolding before our eyes, and the organisation that we serve appears

1:03.6

powerless to stop it. As someone who has investigated human rights in Palestine since the 1980s,

1:08.7

lived in Gaza as a human rights adviser in the 1990s, and carried out several human rights,

1:14.2

missions in the country before and since, this is deeply personal to me. I also worked in these

1:19.0

halls through the genocides against the Tutsis, Bosnian Muslims, the Yazidi, and the Rohingya.

1:24.1

In these gates, when the dust settled, on the horrors that had been perpetrated against

1:29.0

defenseless civilian populations, it became painfully clear that we had failed on our duty to meet

1:33.7

the imperatives of prevention of mass atrocities, of protection of the vulnerable, and accountability

1:41.4

for perpetrators. And so it has been with successive waves of murder and persecution against the

1:46.7

Palestinians throughout the entire life of the UN. High Commissioner, we are failing again.

1:52.4

As a human rights lawyer, with more than three decades of experience in the field, I know well

1:57.0

that the concept of genocide has been subject to political abuse. But the current wholesale slaughter

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