Welcome to Follow Him, a weekly podcast dedicated to helping individuals and families with their

Come Follow Me study. I'm Hank Smith and I'm John by the way. We love to learn, we love to laugh.

We want to learn and laugh with you. As together, we follow him.

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Follow Him. My name is Hank Smith. I'm your host.

I'm here with my dreamy co-host, John by the way. You saw me sleeping. He's sometimes nods off during our

drinking. No, I'm just I'm agreeing. Yeah, yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

John, we're talking to someone very dreamy in the old testament. But before before we get started,

I want to do a little shout out. I met Mark and Ashley Lyons. They live out in North Carolina,

and I ran into him when I was out east and they listen every week to the podcast. So Mark and Ashley

just want to say thank you for listening. It was really good to meet you. John, we are talking about

Joseph of Egypt this week, our continuing our discussion from last week of Joseph of Egypt.

And we have a familiar face here. Who's with us? We're so glad to have Dr. S. Michael Wilcox back

with us. And this is the third time, Hank. But I loved listening to brother Wilcox. And I've

been so grateful for his teachings over the years. That book don't leap with the sheep. Just gave me

a new way to try to teach what the scriptures teach. Really grateful for that. So he has a new book

out called Holding On. Really timely book. And in the back of here, this is probably our most recent

bio S. Michael Wilcox received his PhD from the University of Colorado and taught for many years

at the Institute of Religion adjacent to the University of Utah. He's spoken to Pact crowds at BYU

Education Week hosted tours to the Holy Land to China. In fact, my brother and sister-in-law went

with Mike to China. Just loved it to church history sites and beyond. He's also served in a variety

of colleagues, including Bishop and Counselor and Estate Presidency. Written many articles and books.

He and his late wife, Larry are the parents of five children. And we're just really glad to

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