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Hard Fork

Generative AI is Here. Who Should Control It?

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.35.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

We sit down with the founder of Stability AI, Emad Mostaque, on the heels of his $101 million fund-raising round. His open-source Stable Diffusion image generator is the key to unlocking creativity, he says, and “one of the ultimate tools for freedom of expression” — as long as it stays out of the hands of a few censorious tech giants. So what’s this former hedge fund manager turned tech mogul thinking about how this technology could be used — or misused? Plus: A.I. Kevin and A.I. Casey stop by.

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0:00.0

Casey, I have a surprise for you.

0:02.5

Okay.

0:03.3

So last week on the show,

0:05.3

you made a promise to listeners that our show

0:09.5

would always be human,

0:12.2

that we would never replace ourselves with AI.

0:15.2

That's right.

0:15.8

Well, I took that as a challenge.

0:17.3

Oh, no.

0:18.2

So I have spent the past week building an AI version of you.

0:24.0

No.

0:25.3

For real?

0:27.3

Yeah, I sent many, many hours of audio of you talking

0:32.4

to a company called Play, which is an AI startup,

0:35.6

and had them build me AI versions of you and of me.

0:40.0

Oh, no.

0:42.8

Do you want to hear it?

0:43.6

Yes.

0:44.4

Okay.

0:45.9

Casey Newton, I think Elon Musk has a lot of great ideas

0:49.5

about social media.

0:51.5

I love getting PR emails from cryptocurrency startups.

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