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Generational Divides with Nick Gillespie: The Golden Age of News Media

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🗓️ 26 February 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Are we in a News Media Golden Age, or a fragmented era? In this “Generational Divides” episode, Reason editor-at-large Nick Gillespie brings together Baby Boomer, Millennial, and Gen Z voices to debate how our media landscape is changing. Are more platforms expanding truth, or blurring the line between news and entertainment? Are journalists accountable to funders, audiences, or the truth? As industry shakeups like recent Washington Post layoffs signal change, what does the future of news media look like?  For Baby Boomers: Kurt Andersen, Novelist, and Former Host of NPR's "Studio 360"; Co-founder of Spy magazine  For Millennials: Nellie Bowles, Journalist & Co-Founder of The Free Press   For Gen Z: Rachel Janfaza, Journalist & Founder of The Up and Up Substack; Contributor to The Bulwark  Nick Gillespie, Editor-at-Large at Reason, is the guest moderator.  Join the conversation on Substack—share your perspective on this episode and subscribe to our weekly newsletter for curated insights from our debaters, moderators, and staff.  Follow us on YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, X, Facebook, and TikTok to stay connected with our mission and ongoing debates.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is open to debate. I'm John Donbent. Today, another in the series we are calling

0:06.1

generational divides with Nick Gillespie. This one zooms out to look at some of the changes

0:10.8

that have happened in the news landscape over the past several decades. As a journalist who worked

0:15.6

for many years for ABC News myself, I found it really, really interesting, really fascinating.

0:19.8

This episode was made possible

0:21.0

by a generous grant from Liberty Ears Foundation. It's a wide-ranging conversation that went a lot of

0:25.9

places, which we edited and organized for clarity. This is open to debate. I'm Nick Gillespie.

0:32.2

This is our second installment in a series we're calling generational divides in which we gather

0:37.2

three different generations,

0:39.5

a boomer, a zoomer, and a millennial to see where the dividing lines fall.

0:44.7

Today we're talking about the state of news and journalism, which is often in the news,

0:49.5

and again recently when the Washington Post announced it was laying off one third of its reporting

0:54.3

staff and cutting entire departments, including the books desk and the sports section.

1:00.2

And then there's the rest of the news that's also being reported about the news, which is

1:03.9

also grim. A century ago, the number of newspapers was around 24,000. Now the number is closer

1:10.7

to 6,000, with the majority of them being

1:13.2

weeklies, not even daily newspapers. The major news networks have seen steep declines in viewership

1:19.3

and trust and confidence in the news has sunk to 28 percent of Americans expressing faith

1:26.2

in the media. That's a low point over the past 50 years. Yet,

1:30.6

the internet has also brought the explosion of blogging websites and podcasts. There are, by many

1:36.5

accounts, more places to access more information, more opinions in the ether than ever before.

1:43.6

Anyone can start a platform, start a podcast,

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