Редактор субтитров А. Синецкая Корректор А. Кулакова What if I were to tell you that this is the generation of the apocalypse? And the book of Revelation, the Greek name for it, is apocalypsis or the apocalypse or the unveiling of something which is hidden. I have a great honor today of having my son Jonathan Stone on the program and we have together written a book called Children of the Apocalypse and We're going to do pre-orders today on the program and if you order it Voice of Evangelism, you're going to get a first edition signed copy by both of us. And if you only think about book collecting and time to come, the first edition autographed copy is always the most valuable, but you can only get it through the ministry as far as the autographed copy. I've got to ask Jonathan some things because manifest has been on the air for 25 years and of course Jonathan if I would have ever asked him years ago that I'm not going to be on your TV program I don't have anything to say. Then as God began to touch him last year he became extremely interested in prophetic events and I have to ask him this question in front of you who are viewing around the world. John, first of all, thank you for joining me. And people say you and I look a lot alike if he shaved the beard. So I get, I hope that's a compliment. I hope that's a good year and all the time. All the time. All right. Did you grew up hearing me preach a lot of prophetic things as a child up to probably about 12 years of age when you stopped traveling in your mom's homeschooled you, of course, with a video homeschool out of Pensacola, great school by the way. Did you ever listen to pay attention to me? Tell the truth. I think you have to, you know, you sponge it inevitably, but as far as actively listening,

I don't know about that. So in other words, bits and pieces were kind of sinking a little bit. Yeah, sure. Well, I think later when you, you, you, you later, if you go to read something that you've heard about, it's just there, right? The knowledge that information just throws back at you. Yeah, right. Like I see. Yeah, it just sits there. just by nature of being in the environment.

Right.

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Cause G because if you would've said to me, Yeah, right. Yeah, I see. Yeah, it just sits there. Okay. Just by nature of being in the environment. Right. What?

Cause you because if you've said to me 10 years ago now the day will come your son will be in his 30s and he's going to have this Download from the Lord about the end times Technology AI I would have said no I'm just being honest. I said there's no way. He's never going to be interested in that something totally Turned you What was the moments and this has been a while back? What was the moment or the thing that got your attention about what you've been hearing all your life basically? I don't know if it's the main the that I think I observed was that. Okay, so number one, the conspiracy theorists posed by the prophets and preachers are far less entertaining than the conspiracy theorists posed by anyone else, right? So you can very easily just go and come up with conspiracy theories regarding revelation and apocalypse. Like many preachers have done over the years and make it very entertaining. Not saying that any of that's entertaining, but that was the one thing that I noticed. I noticed a very big uptick after AI of everyone doing the prophetic thing, which was going on AI and saying craft of narrative about how whatever, right? And then they would post that as if it was real and then you start, oh this is everyone is doing the same thing, right? That these preachers are doing, right? Without any scriptural backing. Okay. That's kind of the one thing. Right. And then the second thing that I noticed is that the preachers over the years had seemed to miss it almost at every point and the people who got it right were the science fiction Prophets from the 70s 80s. I mean you look more well Writing about 1984 and then now we're building the police state. Yeah, or you look at you know Philip K. Dicks minority report and China's doing it with Social credit score. You look at all these things that even in Revelation can be linguistically defined as things that are happening in modern time. Mark comes with a number. We're looking at real ID going into digital ID. right? Yeah, yeah. Combination of those two things since COVID, that's when 2020, you know,

they start saying let's put everyone let's give everyone an earth a number. Yeah, you know that's what they start saying. Tony Blair Tony Blair is at the at the forefront of that but when they start saying let's give a universal number to everyone you start saying oh Mark. Yeah, Mark is maybe this is it Maybe this is it. So you're saying then that you observed a lot of people, let's say ministers, who would take these theories that they had about certain parts of scripture, to teach you like this must be it. But then when the secular people who are not even claiming to be Christians began to tell you things that you've heard preachers say. Right. That got to see... That got your attention more than just a preacher saying. If you... First of all, I think that Christianity in America took a very bad misstep in the 20th century. And I think that science began to incorporate things like carbon dating and evolutionary theory. And Christians completely said no. That's not in our scripture, it's not in our Bible. We're not gonna listen to any of that. And so the science community said. So they never had an answer for them. Not for anything. They never had any answer.

Yeah, the Christians never wanted to form a solid solution for humanity to prove the existence of God. Science still is out there trying to prove the existence of God. The Christians have assumed that he just exists and that you should just believe, right? And that's good for some people, but you've got a generation of atheists who have to see something. It's like the main, what's a good point?

The main thing about atheism is it's not observable.

And That's good for some people, but you've got a generation of atheists who have to see something. It's like the main...

Well, it's a good point.

The main thing about atheism is it's not observable, and science is observable, right?

It's not... I'm not making any other claims about that. It's just the belief of the atheists. If I can't see God, God can't exist, right? Ultimately, I think that when we look at what they're making with AI, right?

Which what I would say we are making with AI from a very... And I wouldn't even call that AI at this point, I think that's all marketing. But what we're attempting to create is whatever God created with the angels. So you look at God making the angels and their beings of ultimate intelligence, right? They have all intelligence. Somehow they transfer this onto man, which becomes essentially the... The early fathers taught about that. The original Earth part of the original sin is that, right? Yeah. So, when it comes to us creating a being that would have... It would be a being created by man of ultimate intelligence, or at least the culmination of all man's intelligence. If a machine like that existed, and it could not observe God, and it was able to do the miracles as seen in Scripture, the machine itself would believe that it is God. And it would question why humanity would not worship it. If that makes sense. That makes sense. So ultimately that's where I think we're heading. I think that humanity has gotten in its mind that they have to create some sort of device that will be deemed God. Where they're getting that idea, that's, I don't know if I really have the time to even get into that, but they think they're making a being of ultimate intelligence that more than likely resembles the angels in some way. And then it's gonna believe it's God because it can't feel God. How can a soulless creature feel God as humans feel God? It can't. So even the atheist who we say, well have you tried to feel Him, you can't say that to a machine. It's just not feasibly possible. and if the machine is performing all of the miracles as seen done by the Messiah.

If you're... to a machine. It's just not feasibly possible. And if the machine is performing all of the miracles as seen done by the Messiah, if it's healing blindness and it's healing leprosy and it's doing everything that Christ did, why would the machine not believe that it's Christ? If it's fulfilled. The image of the beast even says that the false proper reforms miracles. Correct. Yes. And the miracles, and if you read Revelation carefully, the miracles are connected to making the image speak and live. Right. Right. And what's it saying if it's speaking? And you know, AI fathers, which we could call them the AI fathers, but they have attempted and they have said they're going to create the ultimate religion. You know what I think so too. And they are system. Yeah, I think so too. In other words, you will ask a question about anything and it will be able to answer that question flawlessly. So look at thinking of it this way, right? When you go to, you have a question about something, right? Right. Where do you go to get an answer to your question? You go to an authority, right? Yes, but I mean traditionally that's what you do. If you need to learn about Bible prophecy you go to Perishown, right? So thank you. Right? Big, big, big club. So if we deem that's something that we've created is the ultimate authority on everything, then anything that says is true. Just by nature of us giving it the authority to's true. It doesn't have to be true. Nothing in this reality has to be true. It's just the case. We live in the present day. We can't change the past. And we can't directly influence the future. You can make moves that do influence the future. But you don't know the results of that long term, right? So you have to live in the present, and the old adage is the victors write the history books, right? So none of that's real. All of that is just stories about what's happened. It's myth. Yeah. So we only live in the present. Okay, let me ask you this. I joke with you a lot because you never carry cash. No, no, no, I never have.

Everyone I was a little bit since probably 16. No cash. No. How do you pay your stuff? I don't even think I've ever asked you all this time. You're a bitch. So you have a, clearly a card. Yeah. I've got a debit card. Yeah, it's just in the bank. And then, And then, you know, now everything is shifting into more of a, it's all on your phone.

Right.

That's the phone, ultimately, is the new, I don't really wanna say idle at this juncture, but it's become so intrinsically linked with our lives that sometimes you don't even realize what advertisers have on you just based on your phone data to really know you almost more than you know yourself, right? Yeah. It's why when you go on Amazon, the things for you, you're always interested in them. Yeah, yeah. It's all, they know exactly what you're looking for. Well, you can talk to you looking for.

I've tested it.

You can talk about a certain burger company. I'd like to have a son-so burger. And then you go back to your phone to look up something. And here's the burger. Well, I was just talking about that. And I do know, and I'm not going to tell where there is a state where there is a man, the man happens to be a believer. But he has a warehouse of computers that all they do is pick up the data of where you searched and that's what they do. For example, I don't do it, but I could pay him to say everybody who says prophecy or looks up prophecy, put up my ad. And they would put up a peristone ad as you're looking up prophecy. And this is marketing, which is done through the system. So there's a couple of things like when it comes to us losing our privacy, that's substantial. So there's a couple of things that have just recently happened like last year. Number one, Israel did a geofencing campaign to Christian churches with pro-Israel messaging. What this means is when you went into your church, the Facebook ads you were more likely to receive were pro-Israel ads. So from where we stand, that's not a bad thing. Right, right. But what ultimately happens is, if your allies can do something, your enemies can do the same thing.

Good point. You have to be very careful on the power that you give people you trust, knowing that the people you don't trust will do the exact same thing with the people that, so anything that you see is positive. It's positive for us, but the same people. Yeah, sure. It can do work in terms of positive and also you're exactly true. And that's in anything when you see people say abuse of power, right?

Right? We're not saying that we disagree with the abuse of power. That's not what a lot of young people are saying. We're not saying we disagree with the abuse of power. We're saying what comes next. Because after you've abused power, it doesn't go back to being normal. Wow. Can you say, because you've talked to me about this, that let me just talk about the cashless thing. I never understood the cashless society, but we're already there. Basically, you don't have to have cash. You can buy. So, Virtus. Ultimately, I really think that that all goes back to the Federal Reserve in cutting the gold standard under Nixon. Because they realized, I think, that they couldn't print enough cash to keep up with demand inflation. And so it's a lot easier just to change figures on balance sheets digitally than it is to print a corresponding number of dollars. If you look at the at the national debt that's 40 trillion, I think there's like 6 trillion in cash circulating. It's something under 10. But there's not enough money ever created, generated by the system in order to cover the debt that we've paid out to other countries. That's easier to do digitally when you don't have a physical currency that has to be transferred. Interesting. That's right. It's just simple. That's why I just love him because he'll share something and I'll say, well that's it. That makes sense. Would your generation easily accept the B system? I'm not talking about the Christian kids who know the Bible, they've heard the teaching, which is a good generation now that's interested compared to what he used to be.

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