Leaders have a much less active or controlling role than we sometimes want to think.

The best they can do is produce something between the followers that enables us to do it.

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Stan, let me start by asking you about sort of your life story. For folks who don't know your

backstory, where did you come from? Obviously, folks know you for your leadership in the military

and for your leadership in Afghanistan and for you have several at this point best-selling books.

But what was your child's luck? Where did you come from? Yeah, I was an army brat, which meant

my father was a career soldier and his father before him. So I was one of six kids and five boys and a

girl. All the boys became soldiers and my sister married a soldier. So we were an army family

that moved around. And then

my father's career spanned Korea and Vietnam. So I was focused on that. I graduated from high

school in Northern Virginia and then went to West Point when I was 17 years old at 1972.

In an era when the military was not very popular, so I was entering a profession that I was very interested in, but the nation had a different view of.

I graduated from there in 76. While I was there, I'd met a young girl that I fell in up with. She was the daughter of a career soldier. Her three brothers are soldiers, her sisters, the widow of a

soldier. So I grew up in a very army environment. I never thought about doing anything but going in the

army because my father was my hero. So when I graduated in 76, I was sort of on a path that may

have been set for me almost at birth. So what do you think are sort of the values that distinguish military families from other families?

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