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All electric all the time. That's GM's goal, at least. From American public media.

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In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle Rizzo. I'll let you Thursday, it's day the eighth day of June.

Good as always to have you along. Everybody, I spent some time in Warren, Michigan,

earlier this week, 15, 20 miles north of Detroit. It's an industry town, mostly, that industry being

cars and more specifically general motors. GM is the biggest, as measured by sales, of what used to

be called Detroit's big three car makers. And it has promised to make 100% of its cars emissions

free by 2035, which explains how I wound up on Tuesday morning at GM's Global Technical Center in Warren.

It's a huge campus, 25,000 people work there. The heart, really, of the research going into GM's

electric vehicle offerings. Hi, how are you? Kyle Rizzo, nice to see you. How are you?

That's Mary Barra. She is the chair and CEO of GM.

In your inner R&D building, which is one of our historic

Sarenin design buildings, the stairwell, you wouldn't be able to make anymore.

We were coming at the end, on and on the way up here.

And then we got to it. Well, it's great to be here. Thanks so much for making the trip to Warren.

And it was a trip. Warren's an interesting place. We drove in this morning, and I was thinking about

how I was going to start our chat. And I was looking at the cars as I came in. Lots of, you know,

almost almost all GM's, not all of them, almost. It occurred to me though that there was only one EV

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