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Pod Force One

General Michael Flynn, Russiagate's Patient Zero, talks “Black Budgets,” Deep State overreach and the Trump counter revolution.

Pod Force One

New York Post

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn joins Miranda Devine to reveal how he became the first victim of the Russiagate hoax . He says he was targeted by the Deep state to get Trump. And when he challenged intelligence chiefs about classified budgets hidden from public, they came after his family and tried to put him in jail. He describes the Chinese influence operations reshaping the US, and Donald Trump's counter-revolution. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Podforce One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine in New York City, and joining me today

0:08.8

is retired general Michael Flynn, who served a short stint as the National Security Advisor

0:14.8

in President Trump's first term before he was sabotaged by the original Russiagate rogues. He's also author of the book,

0:23.8

Pardon of Innocence, an inspiring story of faith and freedom. General Michael Flynn,

0:29.9

thank you so much for joining us on Podforce One, and congratulations on your new book,

0:35.7

Pardon of Innocence. I wanted to ask you initially because we're at this momentous moment where at last, it seems

0:45.8

that some of the wrongdoers of the Russia Gate disaster that ensnared you and, of course,

0:51.5

President Trump, some accountability may be being brought to them.

0:58.2

I'm speaking particularly of John Brennan, former CIA director under Obama, your nemesis,

1:05.9

and also Jim Comey, the former FBI director.

1:10.2

And there are now referrals to the FBI for criminal charges

1:16.0

of perjury potentially.

1:18.2

We don't know how that will pan out, but at least someone is trying to bring them to account.

1:24.4

What do you make of that?

1:26.3

Yeah, so a couple of things and a little bit of background

1:29.3

and context for your audience and anybody else that listens to this. And there's actually a very

1:35.7

famous picture of me, and testifying in front of Congress, me, Jim Clapper, John Brennan, and Jim Comey. And Jim Clapper, who was the... Jim Clapper, John Brennan, and Jim Comey all together.

1:45.0

And Jim Clapper, who was the...

1:46.0

Jim Clapper, who will be brought into this investigation.

1:50.0

And he was the DNI.

1:52.0

Jim Clapper at the time was the Director of National Intelligence.

1:54.0

And I actually worked for Jim Clapper at different times.

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