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Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff

General Mark Hertling. Boots on the Ground Loom. Trump’s Unlimited Military Power.

Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff

Righteous Media | Bleav

Politics, News, National Security, News Commentary, Daily News, Veteran

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Author, National Security Analyst, Contributor at The Bulwark, and retired Army General Mark Hertling is back on Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff at a moment when America is at war abroad and under strain at home. They attack the latest national security headlines from the war in Iran and the political wars at home. And Hertling is bringing hard truth, deep experience, and real hope. From Iran’s widening conflict and Trump’s reckless use of the most powerful military on Earth, to the rising threat of attacks here at home and the very real possibility he’ll try to mess with our elections, Rieckhoff and Hertling break down what’s really happening, what keeps this retired General up at night, and where the true “circuit breakers” are inside the Pentagon, Congress, and our democracy. They dig into war crimes, strategy (or the lack of it), the courage our leaders are missing, and the new consensus forming in the streets against the Iran war, ICE in our airports, and the slide toward authoritarianism.

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0:00.0

I don't care how many press conferences, Secretary Hegeseth and General Kane give,

0:04.7

where they talk about how many numbers of launchers and ballistic missiles they've destroyed.

0:10.5

It seems that Iran just keeps coming up with more.

0:14.0

And as you and I both know, having served in Iraq, every time we said,

0:18.1

oh, you know, we're about over and it's all done and we've destroyed all their arms caches, you'd find 10 more.

0:43.1

All right, independent Americans around the country and around the world.

0:49.4

In this trying time, this ferocious week, March madness of all kinds is in full swing.

0:54.5

I'm going to continue to bring you guests who can help us make sense of it, who can help guide us through it,

1:03.2

not just strategically and politically, but also morally and in ways that I think really cut to the heart of what culture is feeling and society is feeling.

1:04.9

We have a returning champion.

1:08.0

He has spent more than four decades in the Army.

1:17.6

He was commanding general of U.S. Army Europe, where he led over 40,000 soldiers. He commanded training organizations at NTC and Fort Irwin, the Joint Multinational Training Center in Grafenbore, Germany. He was the assisted division commander in Baghdad

1:23.8

from 03 to 04. He commanded the Army's first armored division in Germany and in northern Iraq during the surge.

1:30.8

He spent over 36 months in combat. You know him from his cable news appearances, which thankfully have been plentiful in the last few weeks because he's got a new book that everybody is talking about called If I Don't Return,

1:48.8

a Father's Wartime Journal that is available everywhere you should pick it up.

1:54.4

He is now also on the team at Bullwark, which is really exciting to see another veteran in a really key independent media position.

1:57.2

But finally joining us back on Independent Americans, the great and powerful General

2:01.1

Mark Hurtling is back on the show. Welcome back, sir.

2:05.3

Hey, Paul. How are you doing? It's good to be back with you again for, I don't know, my 47th time

2:10.4

on your show. It's great. Thank you. I don't know how many times we've been together, but it's been

2:15.6

fun. Well, we knew you in the podcast world before everybody else. Like before you went over and hooked up with the bulwark guys and were everywhere, because you guys have been on fire. I'm glad that we've had these conversations over the years. And I'm also glad you're kind of a free agent and can go everywhere now. Well, yeah, and that's been fun too. And by the way,

2:34.8

let me talk about the bulwark if I can for just a second because you mentioned it. It's fascinating

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