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Woman's Hour

Gender neutral parenting, Women and high street job losses, Author Emma Donoghue, Late diagnosis of autism

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

As the neutral pronouns they/them start to enter the public consciousness, so too has the idea of gender-neutral parenting. Sarah Davies is a new mum to baby Quinn and talks about her experience of practicing gender-neutrality in a highly gendered society. Prof Melissa Hines from the University of Cambridge and Dr Brenda Scott from City University have both studied how children’s gender identity and behaviour develops over time – and are helping to separate what’s innate about our gender expression and what can be influenced by what our parents teach us.

Marks & Spencer has said 950 jobs are at risk as part of plans to reduce store management and head office roles. It was already undergoing a transformation that included cutting costs and closing some stores. Job losses have already been announced at John Lewis, Boots and Debenhams. Jobs at Oasis and Warehouse went in April. So many of these shop-floor, customer-facing jobs are done by women. We explore the consequences of these lay-offs with retail analyst Catherine Shuttleworth and Sue Prynn, deputy divisional officer for USDAW's southern division.

Emma Donoghue, the author of the international bestseller Room, has set her latest novel The Pull of the Stars in Dublin in a maternity ward in 1918 at the height of the Great Flu. She explores the lives of a nurse, a volunteer and a doctor on the run, over the course of three days. She tells Jane why she’s mixed fictional with real characters.

When Anna Wilson’s father, the man who has calmed her mother for over 40 years, becomes ill with cancer, things become extremely difficult. Her mother has always been ‘a little eccentric’ but in her seventies she becomes increasingly anxious and manic. Anna joins Jane to discuss her memoir, A Place for Everything, in which she talks about the difficulties of getting proper help for her mother, her mother’s late diagnosis of autism at the age of 72, her father’s illness and death and what it was like to care for her parents in their final years.

Presenter: Jane Garvey Producer: Dianne McGregor

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

Hi, this is Jane Garvey, and this is the Woman's Hour podcast from Tuesday, July 21, 2020.

0:11.0

Good morning to you today. Are you bringing up your baby to be gender-neutral?

0:15.5

We've got a great new novel to discuss, The Pull of the Stars, by Emma Donahue.

0:19.6

She wrote Room, of course, and this one is set in Dublin during the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918.

0:26.8

It absolutely gripped me that book. I thought it was remarkable.

0:29.6

And also today, late diagnosis of autism in women, something we have discussed on this programme before.

0:35.9

It is at the subject of Anna Wilson's new memoir about her mother, who was diagnosed at the age of 72.

0:44.0

I know a lot of people are very interested in this subject, so that's at the end of the programme this morning,

0:48.7

if you want to stay around to make sure you hear from Anna Wilson.

0:52.7

First, though, the job losses in the retail sector, that does mean bad news for women, of course.

0:58.1

Retail is the second most common sector of employment for women in the UK.

1:03.4

MNS made an announcement yesterday about up to 950 job losses, mainly store managers.

1:11.1

They're thinking about MNS, but jobs have also gone at John Lewis, at Boots, at Devonums,

1:16.2

and at TM Lewin, the shirt makers.

1:18.8

Jobs went at Oasis and Warehouse in April.

1:22.0

They're also going at Caron Millen, Coast, Laura Ashley, Cath Kidston, Accessorised and Monsoon.

1:29.5

And Redunders is two at the High Street Coffee, Emporiums like Preta Monje, and Sandwich Shops like Upper Cross.

1:36.6

It really is deeply, deeply gloomy.

1:39.7

Catherine Shuttleworth is a retail analyst.

1:42.2

Sue Prinn is Deputy Division Officer for Usdor's Southern Division.

1:47.2

So, Sue, you look after people working in parts of London, Kent, the south-east of England, generally.

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