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The Trawl

Gender, Justice and the Pope's Last Amen

The Trawl

Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss

Politics, Government, News

4.6708 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The ladies open with a tale of rising from the dead... No, not Jesus Christ, but Jemma Forte when she overdid it at Marina's house last week. 

Conversation quickly turns to Pope Francis' passing and the reminder that often until someone dies, we don't quite realise the incredible impact they made on the people around them. And as many mourned, others memed... Jemma and Marina discuss the best reactions to Trump becoming our new pope and the awkward timing of JD Vance's encounter with Pope Francis the day before his passing. Never has the phrase 'lost the will to live' felt more pertinent. 

And Trump shared his grief in a way that only Trump can... by completely misjudging the mood and sharing how much he was looking forward to the funeral - such fun!

Then talk turns to the Supreme Court gender ruling, where things are never as straightforward as we would like them to be and what was celebrated as a win for women's right, may turn out to be anything but. Marina shares an exchange on X with someone who questioned her support of women's rights and why this ruling potentially raises more issues than it solves, before a quick clip of someone seemingly in support of trans rights...and you won't believe who it is. 

Underrated tweets are Easter-themed with an appearance from two right-wing grifters followed by a poetic Pope-ey pudding from brand new contributor, Ron Gallo. 

Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcast

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Created and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss

Edited by Catherine Fusillo

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0:00.0

So I don't think that I am any safer as this woman today than I was last Saturday.

0:17.5

Hello and welcome to The Trul where we scroll through social media so you don't have to.

0:22.5

I'm Marina Perkis.

0:23.7

And I'm Gemma Forte and wow, that was a fairly dramatic Easter.

0:29.7

So when you say dramatic, are you talking about when you came over to my house on Thursday last week and you said I was you were just

0:40.1

going to have one glass of wine and then you were going to drive home and you actually ended up

0:44.0

sleeping in your clothes I did offer her pajamas by the way in your clothes in my spare room before

0:50.6

rising like Jesus the next day. Is that what you're referring to?

0:55.2

Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Marina.

0:56.5

Outing me on the podcast, but yes, fair enough.

0:59.9

I feel like I remember that we did a little dance on your landing just before you said goodnight to me.

1:05.6

It was a little sort of Brenda dance, wasn't it?

1:07.8

I know.

1:08.3

It's so funny.

1:08.8

Also, how did you end up, like, more smashed than me? Whereas I went into it open-minded, like, I was going to have a few drinks that night.

1:14.4

I needed it after the week I'd had.

1:16.1

Whereas you were like, no, no, no, no.

1:17.5

And then you ended up.

1:18.7

In fact, you know what?

1:19.3

You blamed me.

1:20.1

You blamed me.

1:20.6

It was your fault entirely. powerful stealth pouring thing. Goodness me. And also it's because if I say don't do something,

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