Hi, I'm Morgan Sung, host of Close All Tabs from KQED, part of the NPR network, where every week we reveal how the online world collides with everyday life.

You don't know what's true or not, because you don't know if AI was involved in it.

And I think we will see it to a Twitch streamer president, maybe within our lifetimes.

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A warning.

This segment contains references to sex, sexuality, and rape.

Hello, hello.

I'm Brittany Luce and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR.

A show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

I think that oftentimes gender is actually a negotiation with all these people around us.

The dream is that you live in a society where you can just say, this is who I want to be and everybody accepts you. But in fact, they don't. You're sort of negotiating with people.

My guest today is a repeat guest for the show. It's amazing to be back. That's author Tori Peters.

She came on. It's been a minute in 2021 to talk about her last book called

Detransition Baby. It was a blockbuster of a novel that brought trans literature to a huge

audience. And let me tell you, Tori is not afraid to ask the pointed questions about gender

and our culture's relationship to it. Like, what does it even mean to be trans?

And what if all of us, cis and trans, had to choose our genders? That's exactly what she

dives into in her new book called Stagdance. It's a collection of four novellas. I'm here with

Tori to explore the nuances of gender, desire, and performance and the

stakes of writing this book in our current political climate. So I want to start with the

epigraph of this book. Your letter to the reader before the book even begins. And in it you say,

what interests me,

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