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The News Agents

Gender Identity, Children and the NHS

The News Agents

Global

Politics, Daily News, Government, News

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

The only NHS service in England to offer gender identity services to children announced it would be closing down last year - after years of whistleblowers who worked there trying to raise the alarm about a scandal in their midst: a failure to safeguard some of the country's most vulnerable young adults.

What went wrong?

And how much did the toxic political climate at the time over trans issues contribute to a work practice that was not fit for purpose. We talk to the investigative reporter Hannah Barnes who's new book Time to Think reflects her years spent talking to those involved - the staff, the families and most importantly, the children themselves.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.1

This is a global player original podcast.

0:13.1

We thought we'd start by telling you what today's episode of the newsagents is not.

0:18.8

It is not a debate about trans rights or transitioning or the right of people to

0:27.1

choose to transition. But what it is is an examination of a failed service in NHS England.

0:36.7

It was a gender identity development service that went wrong.

0:43.3

And it's led to serious concerns about the safeguarding of some of our most vulnerable

0:49.1

children, because it was quite simply the only one in England.

0:53.7

And because it was an simply the only one in England.

0:59.3

And because it was an institution that dealt with what has become one of the most politically charged issues of our modern politics, gender,

1:05.9

and changing your gender, it has found itself,

1:09.1

and its failure has found itself at the top of the headlines.

1:13.4

And we're going to be speaking to someone, an old colleague of both mine and Emily's, Hannah Barnes,

1:18.8

who has literally written the book on this clinic and who, dispassionately, brilliantly, through painstaking journalism and research tells us about

1:32.0

what went wrong, how and why it matters for trans people and for the NHS in the future.

1:39.3

Welcome to the news agents.

1:43.8

The news agents. The Newsagents.

1:46.2

It's Emily.

1:47.2

And it's Lewis.

1:47.7

And today we're going to be talking about JIDS, the Gender Identity Development Service for

1:53.8

children and young people, adolescents, the young people who chose to transition or to make a move towards transitioning.

2:03.8

And we're going to talk about what happened at the Tavistock Trust,

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