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ποΈ 23 June 2025
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0:00.0 | This message is brought to you by the Cautionary Tales podcast. Cautionary Tales tells the fiasco that was the Jaws production, from a broken shark to a crew that threatened mutiny. Listen to Cautionary Tales wherever you get your podcasts. |
0:14.6 | This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And before we get started, I want to give a heads up that today's show includes frank discussion about sex and sexuality. |
0:24.8 | A few years ago, I chaperoned my daughter's seventh grade dance. |
0:29.1 | The gym lights were dim, the pop songs were on rotation, with adults like me lurking on the sidelines. |
0:35.9 | Thinking back to that time period, what struck me wasn't what |
0:39.0 | happened, but what didn't. There was no dancing, no flirting. Boys were on one side of the gym, |
0:44.9 | girls on the other, and some were even hunched over their phones, more interested in what was |
0:49.4 | online than each other. At the time, I chalked it up to middle school awkwardness. But now, more than a |
0:55.6 | decade later, those same kids are young adults, part of Gen Z. And what I witnessed that night |
1:01.7 | might have been more than just adolescent nerves. As my guest today, journalist and author |
1:06.6 | Carter Sherman writes, it was possibly a preview of something much bigger. In her new book, |
1:12.5 | The Second Coming, Sex and the Next Generations Fight Over Its Future, Sherman explores why Gen Z, |
1:19.0 | that's people ages 13 to 28, are having less sex than previous generations. And the sex they |
1:25.5 | are having, it's often fraught with confusion, a fixation on |
1:29.5 | performance from exposure to porn, shame and disconnection. Sherman conducted more than a hundred |
1:35.5 | interviews with teenagers, young adults, and experts for the book, and makes the argument that |
1:40.9 | the decline of interest in sex and romance is a fallout for |
1:44.8 | miseducation, digital overexposure, and the politicized landscape where even desire is up for |
1:51.0 | debate. |
1:52.3 | Carter Sherman is a reproductive health and justice reporter at The Guardian, where she's |
1:56.7 | covered the real-world results of abortion bans, access to health care for trans people, |
2:01.7 | and how technology is reshaping our view of our bodies and our choices. |
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