Gen X Girl Talk With Evolutionary Biologist Heather Heying

The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2020

⏱️ 68 minutes

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**Recorded July 15th** "I do think on average men are more likely to be more disruptive than necessary and women are more likely to be less disruptive than necessary" - Dr. Heather Heying Evolutionary biologist Dr. Heather Heying has emerged over the last few years as a free speech advocate, largely because of her connection to a now-infamous set of protests at Evergreen State College, where she and husband, evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein, taught for fifteen years. But less is known about Heather's own story. In a wide-ranging conversation that covers sex differences, sex discrimination, and what it was like to grow up in the 1970s and 1980s as a girl who felt "invincible," Heather talks about doing field work in Madagascar, wanting to be a science fiction writer, and why there aren't more women in the "Intellectual Dark Web." GUEST BIO: Heather Heying is a scientist, educator, and author. Currently a Visiting Fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton, she was a professor at The Evergreen State College for 15 years, where she pushed students from their comfort zones, in part through exploring remote sites in the neotropics. She earned her PhD in Biology from the University of Michigan, receiving the university's top honor for her dissertation, and has a B.A. in Anthropology. Her first book is Antipode (2002), written while she was studying the sex lives of poison frogs in Madagascar. With husband Bret Weinstein, she is now writing A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century, which will provide an evolutionary toolkit for living a good and honorable life as an ape in the 21st century. Visit Heather Heying at https://heatherheying.com

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, Megan here. Thanks for stopping by the inaugural post of my new podcast, The Unspeakable.
0:07.4	Before we get into the first episode, I just want to say a few words about this podcast. Since I think we can all agree that the world does not need another one of these, I guess I'll admit that I did this for slightly selfish reasons.
0:19.6	And those are that I love to talk and I love to
0:22.4	listen to other people talk. And I miss the way we used to talk. I miss just sort of roaming around
0:29.0	a conversation, trying ideas on for size. I miss being able to stumble upon a new subject.
0:35.2	And instead of asking myself, am I allowed to talk about this,
0:39.3	thinking, I can't wait to talk about this. And that's what I'm hoping this podcast will be,
0:45.3	a place where thoughtful people can explore ideas with honesty, humor, and generosity of spirit.
0:51.4	That's really it. It's pretty simple. Now, this is all new to me. The project
0:56.5	will probably evolve over time. Depending on how things go, I may offer bonus content for paid
1:01.8	subscribers, but for now, everything is free and available to everyone. And I'll add that I'm doing
1:07.6	this as an independent enterprise. It's not affiliated with any existing platform or media space.
1:13.7	You can listen on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, and also at the unspeakable
1:19.8	podcast.com.
1:21.8	Feel free to email me there with any comments or suggestions.
1:25.1	Within reason, of course, be nice.
1:27.2	And with that, I thank you for listening,
1:29.2	and I welcome you to The Unspeakable. Can she hear you? Yeah. Is she getting the problem?
1:38.2	Not yet. You want to be able to monitor the audio back in your headphones? Would that make it
1:42.4	easier to? I can hear her fine. No, would you like to be able to hear your own audio back in your headphones. Would that make it easier today? I can hear her fine.
1:44.8	No, would you like to be able to hear your own audio back in your headphones?
1:47.4	Dad always refers that, so I'm not sure if you would prefer that.
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