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Welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show.

Ladies and gentlemen, we ask you now to count down from 10, silently, if you don't mind.

And when you get to one, you'll hear one of the greatest voices on this or any other planet.

Three, two, one. Eric Mattaxas! Hey folks, it's Eric Mattaxas, and I believe each one of us is unique and irreplaceable.

And while I believe that is true, if you've got an hour-long TV program like I do,

I can tell you the host may be irreplaceable, but the time

slot is not. So while I'm on vacation, I'm happy to introduce the following program.

So joining me now is my good friend and former client, Pastor John McArthur of Grace Community

Church. And so, Pastor John, this film, The Essential Church, is going to be in

theater starting July 28th. And what has this project overall meant to you?

Well, it's been an all-absorbing effort for the last really a year and a half.

When we came out of the pandemic and we won the case,

I felt like we needed to give testimony to the Lord's faithfulness in protecting us.

And I didn't want to wait 25 years until somebody wrote a book about the case.

I said, well, this thing is still hot and everybody's still

aware of all of the elements of it. We need to tell this story so that when the next wave of

hostility comes against the church, people are going to be prepared and they're going to see that

you can take a stand and God will honor that. So this is really our testimony to the

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