GEN C: The Interspecies Economy: How Animals Could Join the Crypto Revolution
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🗓️ 14 July 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What would happen if an old growth tree or an insect colony or an elephant would be able to hold |
| 0:07.1 | down the stable digital identity, and you can attach a wallet to that identity, obviously, |
| 0:13.5 | to be clear, not to the animal or tree itself, but to the kind of computational proxy of that. |
| 0:21.2 | That started off as a kind of thought experiment, and then the Brookings Institution in Washington, |
| 0:27.5 | D.C. asked me to write a paper, and that's when I sort of really came up with this idea |
| 0:34.1 | of interspecies money. |
| 0:43.5 | All right. |
| 0:45.9 | I am very excited for this episode. |
| 0:49.4 | Have you ever wondered whether gorillas could have a crypto wallet or whether stable coins could fuel the soil or the sun. |
| 0:55.0 | These are concepts around the idea of interspecies money. |
| 0:59.0 | And our guest, Jonathan Leggard, is the person who has really concepted this idea, |
| 1:05.0 | which is that the Earth is a natural resource and provides labor for us. It may be in the sunshine it brings, it might be in the bees, |
| 1:14.6 | propagating flowers, it might be in how water feeds the plants around the world and the animals. |
| 1:19.6 | So, he has created this idea that interspecies money can exist, |
| 1:25.6 | where the earth and its resources are in essence paid for the work |
| 1:31.8 | that they give us. And I think it's a pretty fascinating concept when you think of the animals and the |
| 1:36.5 | plants and the air and the soil and all of the things that really continue to keep us alive and keep us |
| 1:41.9 | happy. He has a company called Tejano, and Tejano is really working on |
| 1:47.3 | solving this challenge. They have an amazing project with the guerrillas in Rwanda, and they are also now |
| 1:55.0 | working on fruit bats and some other species. He's really sort of pioneering this idea that a small portion of the funds |
| 2:02.8 | driven by tourism and resources that go into making businesses can come back to the resources |
| 2:10.1 | themselves with agents and AI, in essence being the voice that tells us what they need and then |
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