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part of the lives of future humans. You know, so 10 years from now, I believe that, you know, fully 50% of all luxury goods,

as an example, will be pure digital purchases.

But...

That's a bold proclamation, 50%.

I think so.

This episode is sponsored by SAFE, the account abstraction leader on Ethereum.

All right, everyone, we are back. We just wrapped up an amazing consensus, 2024. We had over 15,000 people on the ground. We had 600 speakers, over 200 sponsors. It was a true experience that is unmatched. I think that the optimism as well in the crypto industry is really palpable.

Unlike last year when we had consensus in a bear market where we had a lot of builders there,

still doing amazing work. We're seeing the fruits of that effort this year. In addition,

there was a lot of optimism, I think, on the regulatory front that helped make consensus a special

experience. The Bitcoin ETF, the pending ETH ETF, I think allows people to feel comfortable

that there's more of a tacit endorsement of crypto these days and of blockchain specifically.

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