Welcome, welcome, welcome. This is the Distraction Pieces podcast episode 668. And I'm joined today by Gemma Cairney.

Oh, God, I love this conversation. So essentially, what happened was, Gemma reached out to me to say,

I've got some big things going on. Are you up for me coming on the podcast and talking about

them? And I said, Gemma, I am so happy to hear from you. It is always a joy. But tell you what,

that I don't even really tell me about the big things. Let's just book a studio and have a chat.

Let's just get in there and have a chat. So this was so beautiful. I've not

caught up properly with Gemma, we reckoned in eight or nine years. And honestly, it would be a crime

if we leave it that long again. I think you're going to love this episode. This really feels like,

again, I say this every now and then, a classic distraction pieces episode.

We get into a lot of stuff, a lot of heavy stuff, a lot of big topics, but there's so much love and positivity and beauty in it all. I think you're going to adore it.

Gemma, the big thing that this is all leading to all, and you'll hear about it, is the Immortal

sisterhood, which is Gemma's new book and a whole load of these amazing live shows. We get into all of it, but I wanted to mention it here. So when you get to the end and you're like, I really want to pre-order that and get into that, you don't have to scroll all the way through if you've forgotten the name.

You just have to listen to like the first minute or so of me talking.

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dollar a month or you can just subscribe there for free and just get a few little behind the scenes bits. And Twitch.tv.4 slash Scrupius Pipyo, where you can come and hang out and have good times all the time. Let's get on with the chat, shall we? Because it's a beautiful one. And it's also worth noting Buddy Peace was really excited when I told him I was having Gemma on. we're basically just all big fans of Gemma. She's an absolute joy. So let's I find it you know really you must because of your radio I like him but it's just like oh and then I'm in like something in the brain the brain is like, I'm in broadcast mode. Yeah. Exactly. Like, that's why, that's why, like, you'll remember that when I came to yours, it's why I bring, like, mic stands and all this coming. Because it's like, I think anyone who's got any experience in the entertainment industry, even if you're holding a mic, you get into showbiz mode.

So it's like, I'd go, I've had to lug their mic stands so many different places,

but it's purely because it's like, if you just do that with rolling,

then it just becomes a conversation and that's what it's meant to be.

Well, I mean, we've done the typical start the podcast halfway through a conversation thing there,

but I'm here

today with Gemm Kearney. How are you? You know what? I'm good. I'm really happy to be here.

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