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It's time for a geeks pub.

I'm Tim Robertson.

I'm David Cohen.

How are you this week, David?

I know there's bad stuff going on.

I know.

It's hard not to focus on that, but...

Yeah.

Yeah, it is, but no, I'm a bit tired and yeah I I'm increasingly tired I don't know whether

it's because I'm just tired of lockdown and everything it goes with it whether it's just because

I've been you know really busy this week I'm kind of I'm now doing virtually back-to-back

conference calls every day and it, and it kind of

wears you out, you know.

Yeah, you would think that it's not a physical job.

It's not like you're out there breaking rocks or something, but it's a mental stress.

Yeah.

And a mental stress will wear you out just as fast as a physical stress.

Well, the other thing as well with, I mean, one of the downsounds of kind of the world we're living in now, in my sort of business, is it because it's so easy to organize meetings, people organize a lot of meetings, but when you're sat in a meeting, you can't get anything else done.

Right.

And so you see a problem with meetings for meetings sake.

Yeah. Yeah. Particularly, I'm now working back in the home office,

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