Okay, we are here with Tanya X Short, who just told us that she prefers to be introduced as the captain of Kit Fox.

Kit Fox is an independent game studio that was most recently responsible for the shrouded aisle and Moon Hunter, and their most recent game is Boyfriend Dungeon, which is exactly what it sounds like.

Hello, Tanya. Thank you for being here. Hello. Thank you very much.

What's it like to be the captain of Kit Fox? Do you have to wear a special hat?

I have to always stand at the front of the boat and look out very meaningfully and squint at the horizon

and they pay me to do it, so it's fine you go down with the ship i do i do all the time

constantly yeah well that's that's a good segue into our conversation

which is labor rights and video games yeah i just am i'm holding in my hand right now a zine

called game workers unite there is a big push for uh industry organization at this GDC. It feels like there's more

momentum than there has been in the past. There's been a lot of talk about exploitation of video game

workers. You and I have talked quite a bit about crunch over the years. Does it feel like there

actually is more momentum now for unionization than there has been in the past? Yes.

And I'm not sure if that's because we have this new generation of developers that are coming up and

talking to each other more.

They're more transparent.

They're more intimate with each other across distances than maybe they used to be.

Thank God for millennials, really.

Right, right?

And Twitter.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I hope that this isn't a false start,

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