GCS 8, intubate?

The Resus Room

Simon Laing

Science, Emergencymedicine, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Em, Ae

4.8 • 678 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

'Patients with GCS scores of 8 or less require prompt intubation', that's what ATLS tells us.

The mantra of GCS 8, intubate has pervaded teaching for those involved in the management of patients with a reduced GCS (Glasgow Coma Scale). But on reflection it would seem slightly odd that the gain or loss of a single point on the Glasgow Coma Scale could simply account for a change in the decision as to whether a patient would benefit from intubation and ventilation. So should the patient with a GCS of 9 be best managed without a definitive airway, but when that slips to 8 we should reach for the portex^®?

In this podcast we take a deeper look at the GCS, we have a think about the role that it was designed to perform and consider how it should best be applied to acutely ill patients when considering protecting their airway.

The podcast is based upon the blog from the TEAM Course blog(Training in Emergency Airway Management), make sure to go and have a look at the post and other resources available on that site.

Enjoy!

Simon, Rob & James

References

GCS 8 intubate; TEAMcourse

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to the recess room podcast.
0:03.9	Five, four, three, two, one, fire.
0:13.3	So hi, and welcome back to the recess room podcast.
0:17.1	I'm Simon Lang.
0:18.5	I'm Rob Fenwick.
0:19.4	And this is not another roadside to recess. Oh no, this is a topic.
0:25.1	James Yates is off setting himself on holiday and has had a significant amount of clinical
0:29.4	commitment. So we very generously let him continue that holiday and covering in his absence.
0:35.6	We are the dictionary definition of good blokes.
0:38.8	So I'm not saying we want any money from him, but James.
0:42.3	I'm very much looking forward to lots of postcards and gifts when he gets back.
0:47.1	So, yeah.
0:49.7	No, he'll be back really soon.
0:51.4	But in his absence, we're going to be talking a bit about the topic of GCS8 intubate.
0:59.2	Before we get into that, a huge thanks to Abrak for supporting the podcast.
1:03.4	They are a high-quality advanced clinical practitioner group who provide ACPs up and down the country.
1:09.0	If you're looking for more staff in your emergency department, and who isn't, why not
1:13.1	get in touch with them?
1:14.0	And if you're looking for a bit more work and you're at ACP with high standards or an EMP,
1:18.6	then go over and have a look at the hyperlink through to their website on our webpage.
1:23.4	So without further ado, let's get on to the podcast.
1:29.0	So then, GCS8, intubate.
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