Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

This week, I have two episodes on Palestine and Israel's brutal apartheid state

violence against the Palestinian people. Later this week, I'll post an interview with

Palestinian scholar Nura Erichat and scholar and analyst Darik Bakoni. Today, I'm posting my

interview with two people in Gaza, Ayah al-Ghazawi and Isam Adwan.

Ayah is an English language teacher for the Palestinian Ministry of Education, a BDS that's boycotts,

divestments, and sanctions activist, and the author of articles published by Mondo Weiss, the Palestinian Project on Medium,

and Salam Media. Isam is a journalist, trained translator and interpreter, and project manager

for We Are Not Numbers, a platform that allows youth in Gaza to tell their stories to the world.

Before we get started, I want to ask you to donate what you can to support the Palestinian people.

First, please donate to We Are Not Numbers so that Gaza youth can get their stories out.

Second, I will post a link with a longer list of organizations working in Palestine.

Again, I will post these links in the show notes.

Please contribute what you can.

Thank you.

Okay, here's my interview with Aya Al-Ghazawi and Isam Adwan.

Thank you. Ghazawi and Isam Adwan. Ayah al-Gazawi and Isam Adwan, welcome to the dig.

Yeah, thank you very much.

To start off, what are you experiencing right now in Gaza?

What have your lives been like since the beginning of Israel's most recent assault?

So our lives at this very moment is really difficult to be explained, imagining that you have a heavy

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