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Gaza, Ukraine, and Why Trump’s "Anti-War" Rhetoric Is a Lie (w/ Medea Benjamin)

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Current Affairs

Politics, Culture, Government, Comedy, News

4.6673 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Medea Benjamin is an anti-war activist and one of the co-founders of CODEPINK: Women for Peace. She’s spent decades fighting the American military-industrial complex, organizing protests against the invasion of Iraq in the early 2000s and interrupting speeches by both Barack Obama and Donald Trump. She’s also the co-author, with David Swanson, of NATO: What You Need to Know. She joined Current Affairs editor-in-chief Nathan J. Robinson to discuss the ongoing push for war, from the Middle East to Venezuela, and how ordinary people can organize and stand against it.

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Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine.

0:14.0

It is our great privilege to be joined today by the legendary peace activist Medea Benjamin. She is a former development

0:24.0

economist and nutritionist for the United Nations who turned full-time to anti-war activism

0:29.7

by co-founding the group Code Pink. She is now the author of over a dozen books, including drone warfare, killing by remote control, Kingdom of the Unjust,

0:42.3

and most recently the books War in Ukraine Making Sense of a Senseless Conflict, co-authored with Nicholas J.S. Davis and NATO What You Need to Know, co-authored with David Swanson. Medea's career as a public

0:59.6

activist has been, as I said, legendary. She is the recipient of the Martin Luther King

1:05.7

Jr. Prize for Peace. She was called by Newsday, one of America's most committed and most effective

1:13.0

fighters for human rights. She's also a major activist for fair trade. She's been arrested.

1:22.5

I think, I don't know if you have an actual count of how many times you've been arrested,

1:26.9

but yeah, I wonder.

1:28.3

Oh, sorry.

1:30.3

Probably, probably more than, probably in the 99th percentile of times being arrested,

1:38.3

not just by the American government, but she has been detained by police in Egypt, in Pakistan, in Bahrain.

1:47.6

She was also the Green Party nominee for Senate in 2000 in California.

1:53.5

The Atlantic once read an article, Who is Medea Benjamin, and why is she so good at heckling public officials?

1:59.8

So we're delighted to talk to her today about her career of activism.

2:04.2

Medea Benjamin, welcome to current affairs.

2:06.0

Great to be on with you, Nathan.

2:07.8

I won't heckle you.

2:09.4

Okay.

2:10.0

Well, you can.

2:10.6

You can.

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