Now, the BBC has been widely condemned and criticised throughout Israel's genocide, including,

I have to say by myself, for its coverage of Israel's genocide, longslaw, against the

Palestinian people.

There was a rare exception, apparently, when the BBC did a documentary which humanised

Palestinians.

It focused, not least, on the experience of children.

We've witnessed one of the great slaughters of children in some form of armed conflict,

it being so asymmetrical, that terms, slightly problematic, but of our time.

I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of children,

at least 1,100 babies have been slaughtered. So children's experience shown, and then

there was a big backlash to take the documentary off for reasons we will explain.

Now, I'm going to talk to the brilliant Richard Sanders, who's a fantastic journalist,

who's done incredible work, including for Al Jazeera, but elsewhere, Channel 4.

But brilliant, really superb work, which I've spoken to him about, you about.

I'll stop speaking about the third person on this channel.

So you know how these things work.

You've been around in the broadcasting world.

Before I talk to you, Richard, I'm just going to show a clip. And it is on the young lad,

the young boy, this controversy has focused on. It is Abdullah al-Jusuri, who is 13 years old.

He was the narrator of Gaza, How to Survive a War Zone, which was on the BBC.

And because his father was a technocratic deputy agricultural minister, I believe, the program was

taken off air. Let's just listen to what Abdullah says about this.

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