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Gaza and Benefits: is Starmer changing course?

Pod Save the UK

Crooked Media

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Reunited, Coco and Nish are finally back together in the studio to talk U turns, disability benefits, Brexit and… gimp masks? There’s a lot of politics to catch up on including some big shifts from the Labour government.  First on Gaza - Keir Starmer and David Lammy changed tack with fierce criticism of the Israeli government. But critics argue that without an actual arms embargo talking tough with Israel is inadequate. So is it all too little, too late?  And in another change of direction, the Prime Minister has been listening to voters and his own disgruntled MPs on benefits. He signalled a rethink on one of Labour's most unpopular moves - cutting winter fuel payments for pensioners. But reforms of disability benefits are still on the cards so Nish heads to Westminster where disability activists gathered to lobby their MPs. With a major rebellion on the cards from Labour MPs, can Starmer be steered into a U-turn on this too? Employment minister Alison McGovern explains how she’s going to get more young people into work and she has a message for Pod Save the UK’s disillusioned Labour voters.  And did you think Brexit bollocks was in the rearview mirror? Well sorry - this week the Brexit undead returned with nonsense we thought was safely consigned to the dustbin of history.  Guests: Alison McGovern MP Ellie Chowns MP Nadia Whittome MP Meg Thomas, Disability Rights Campaigner  Audio Credits: Parliament TV BBC GB News Useful Links:  https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/mass-lobby-against-benefit-cuts-21st-may-be-there Pod Save the UK is a Reduced Listening production for Crooked Media. Contact us via email: [email protected] BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/podsavetheuk.crooked.com Insta: https://instagram.com/podsavetheuk Twitter: https://twitter.com/podsavetheuk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@podsavetheuk Facebook: https://facebook.com/podsavetheuk Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodSavetheUK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Nish Kumar.

0:04.3

And I'm Cocoa Khan. We're back in the studio and I'm seeing you, Nish, face to face.

0:09.3

For the first time, in ages, I feel like a baby in sensory play.

0:15.0

I'm like, I'm really enjoying it, but I might start screaming.

0:18.1

This is the first time we've been in a room since you became a mother.

0:21.0

I know.

0:22.4

I feel changed.

0:23.2

Are you feeling changed?

0:24.9

I'm more scared of you than I was before.

0:28.0

So maybe that's something.

0:29.7

Maybe that's something.

0:31.8

Maybe my genetic program to be scared of South Asian mothers.

0:35.3

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:36.3

Has now kicked in and is now applying to you.

0:38.6

Listen, it's actually slightly a briefer time

0:42.8

thrust together than normal because we're going to do some chat about the news,

0:47.1

things that are going on and then I'm getting out of the studio today.

0:49.7

I'm going from here to Westminster to cover a mass lobby of disability activists from around the country.

0:56.0

Meanwhile, back in the studio, I'll be speaking with the employment minister, Alison McGovern,

0:59.9

about the government's mission to get more young people into work.

1:03.7

But we'll also be talking about the government's third trade deal in as many weeks.

1:10.9

But before we do all of that, end this blockade now and let the aid in.

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