Babies, Benefits and Black Lives Matter

Pod Save the UK

Crooked Media

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.6 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Stay out of wombs Nigel! Reform UK leader Nigel Farage wants us to have more babies - which for new mum Coco feels like being bamboozled into being rightwing. Not only this, Farage is even coming for abortion - saying it’s “utterly ludicrous” to allow abortion up to 24-weeks. Keep your wits about you! From leaked memos and inner-circle beef to U-turns and rumoured U-turns - Keir Starmer is feeling the pressure. Nish and Coco dive into the Westminster bubble to find out why the Government has become a leaky ship with Politico reporter Bethany Dawson. Half a decade on from the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests that shook the world, only one third of the recommendations of major reports to tackle endemic racism in the UK has actually been implemented and equality initiatives are facing a rightwing backlash on both sides of the Atlantic. So, is the UK backsliding on racial justice? Guardian community affairs correspondent and author Aamna Mohdin reflects on the personal and political legacy of the largest anti-racism rallies in the UK since the abolition of slavery. CHECK OUT THESE DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS SHOPIFY: https://www.shopify.co.uk/podsavetheuk Guests: Bethany Dawson Aamna Mohdin Useful Links: Scattered: The making and unmaking of a refugee by Aamna Mohdin https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/scattered-9781526652591/ Politico’s London Playbook https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/page/109/ Pod Save the UK is a Reduced Listening production for Crooked Media. Contact us via email: [email protected] BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/podsavetheuk.crooked.com Insta: https://instagram.com/podsavetheuk Twitter: https://twitter.com/podsavetheuk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@podsavetheuk Facebook: https://facebook.com/podsavetheuk Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodSavetheUK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Khan.
0:05.0	And I'm Nish Kumar. Coco.
0:06.6	Nigel Farage wants us to have more babies. How do you feel about that?
0:10.2	I feel like I've been tricked into being right wing.
0:14.4	It's not really fair. I have my right wing moments. I watch homeland religiously.
0:19.0	And you know, I drive a petrol car. I'm at my limit.
0:22.5	I don't want to be bamboozled into it. Thanks, Nig. I will say, if Nigel Farage wants people to have
0:28.3	more children, he needs to get himself out of the public eye because there is very little that
0:32.9	softens an erection more than Nigel Farage's face, voice and personality. Anyway, aside from that,
0:40.0	we will be returning to Farage's comments on the family later, but we'll be bursting the bubble
0:44.5	on rumours of foot in Westminster. The government suddenly becomes something of a leaky ship,
0:49.9	but does it matter? We'll be joined by Politico's Bethany Dawson. And later, five years on from the 2020 Black Lives Matter movement,
0:57.2	what progress has the UK made on racial justice?
1:00.2	We're joined by journalist and author Amnamode.
1:05.4	The pressure has been on for the government,
1:07.5	and it appears that finally, finally, it's starting to pay off.
1:11.3	Last week we saw Kirstama open the door to a U-turn on the controversial cuts to winter fuel
1:16.4	payments after months of mounting anger from voters and MPs.
1:20.5	And it appears that he might also be mulling a rethink on the reforms to the benefit system.
1:26.5	So look, it might not be the change we were promised
1:28.9	when they took office, but it's a change I'll take. The question is, though, why now? There's
1:33.6	something afoot in number 10. So this week, we're diving into the Westminster bubble to figure
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