GAYLE PALMER Part 7 of 7: Criminally Minded
The Opportunist
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🗓️ 30 May 2023
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Gayle Palmer moves her program into Nevada after being denied a license to operate in Utah. The Suttons seek justice for Michelle by suing Gayle and Summit Quest.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast contains disturbing content, please take care while listening. |
| 0:11.0 | Michelle Sutton and Kristen Chase died within weeks of each other in the summer of 1990 in Wilderness Therapy programs in Utah. |
| 0:20.0 | In response, Utah passed new safety regulations for Wilderness Therapy programs. |
| 0:26.0 | In both Summit Quest and Challenger were refused licensing and had deceased operations in Utah. |
| 0:33.0 | And then there were the criminal investigations. Steve Cardisano, the founder and director of Challenger, |
| 0:40.0 | was charged with negligent homicide for the death of Kristen Chase, along with nine counts of child abuse. |
| 0:47.0 | But the investigation into Michelle Sutton's death led nowhere. |
| 0:53.0 | The case was closed and neither Gail nor any of the counselors at Summit Quest were criminally charged. |
| 0:59.0 | For Kathy and Bob Sutton, this was a difficult reality to face. |
| 1:04.0 | As far as criminal charges, I just felt like they were criminally charged with something negligent homicide and how about this manslaughter? |
| 1:13.0 | We called every day to the Sheriff's Department trying to find out what was going on. |
| 1:18.0 | And what they told us is that it's a small county and they can't afford a trial. |
| 1:23.0 | Michelle's group had wandered across the border into Arizona and that is where she died. |
| 1:29.0 | Therefore, the criminal investigation fell under the jurisdiction of the Mojave County Sheriff's Office in Kingman, Arizona. |
| 1:37.0 | She was from California and died in Arizona in a program that was operated out of Utah. |
| 1:45.0 | So there was all these different areas that they just wouldn't do anything. |
| 1:51.0 | The Sutton's never got a satisfactory answer as to why Gail Palmer was never charged with the crime. |
| 1:58.0 | But Kathy said over the years she's had to let it go. |
| 2:02.0 | I don't think it ever would have been criminally charged to anyone person. |
| 2:07.0 | So kind of let go of that. |
| 2:09.0 | Did you not hold Gail responsible? |
| 2:12.0 | I hold a responsible for selling the program. Yes, I hold a responsible for her lies. |
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