All right, welcome to IHIP News. I have our warrior, our cynical pragmatist. Kyle Kalinsky,

joining us today. Kyle, how are you? I'm doing great. And thank you for that. I've never been called

a cynical pragmatist, but I think I like it. I think it's true. I mean, if the shoe fits.

That's a solid one. I like that. I think it's true. I mean, if the shoe fits. That's a solid one.

I like that.

Very creative.

Let's go right into Pick Me, Gavin Newsome, who seems to be changing his opinion based on the news cycles.

So I just want to play the clip and then let's dissect it.

Play the clip.

Just think yourself a Zionist.

Do I consider myself Zionist?

I believe, I revere the state of Israel.

I'm proud to support the state of Israel.

I deeply, deeply oppose B.B.N.

That young's leadership, his opposition to the two-state solution, and deeply oppose

how he is indulging the far right as it relates to what's going on in the West Bank.

People were using the word apartheid to describe this real.

I used it, I do in this context that I said it and I referenced why I used it, a Tom

Friedman article in that same sentence where Tom used it in the context

of the direction that BB is going.

Not the current state.

Correct.

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