Okay, so did you see Gavin Newsom was calling out Joe Rogan?

He was on CNN's debut episode of The Story is with Alex Michelson.

If it's that hard to say, it's going to fail.

Yeah, well, it's on CNN.

The story is is the name of the show.

And Alex Michelson is the name of the host?

That's correct. correct okay very good

so you know Gavin Newsom has been denied by Joe Rogan many times he he hasn't been on and now

Gavin Newsom says that uh you know what he's okay with that he's moving on he wanted look he hasn't

for years and years he's been attacking me and it's one way and he won't have me on. He's consistently not having me on. By the way, I'm moving on. I've no interest. You're done with him? Joe Rogan's the Facebook of podcasting. He was sitting across one of the, the brightest minds in podcasting right now. The guy was in the mic, and there are a lot of people at the mic doing extraordinary

things. Yeah. In podcast. Rogan's got a pretty big audience still, though. You know what? But with all

due respect, if he's, if he has a big audience and he, but he doesn't have big enough confidence,

I didn't go there, to have me on. Well, you've called him a chicken. But he's been attacking for, but here's the thing.

These guys, they all have something common.

It's one way they attack, they belittle, they demean, they take things out of contact.

Yeah, okay, so what is the Facebook of podcasting?

Let's think about that.

I understand Gavin, he's trying to insult Joe Rogan.

Facebook is still the most used social media platform.

And it's located in California.

It's a huge business, which he is the governor of the state of.

Why would he do that?

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