spoiler alert you're going to go on to catch an enormous car it wrapped it all up and he went to

and he went to lift and he went it's like it's really heavy i can't lift it went back got my head torch

looked in and like yeah that's massive so there's no other carp it can possibly be the thinking

tackle podcast welcome to the thinking tackle podcast now if you haven already, please subscribe so you don't miss an episode.

Today we are joined by Gav Neal, a man about whom Nigel Schott once said to me,

you don't want him on your lake, and that is in the most positive way as well, Gab.

He didn't mean that you're going to break all the rules, mate.

He meant that you're going to catch all the bigons. And having gone through your albums over the last hour or so, mate, I don't even know where to start. So let's just, there's some massive carp in there, which is kind of why I wanted to get you on, because some of those are giants, but there's a lot more to the story mate so where did it

actually all begin for you with the carp fishing uh i was born and raised on a in a little tiny village

and my grandparents had a little farm pond so to keep me out of trouble you know like a lot of

parents they gave me a fishing rod

and uh yeah we i just spent on my summer all the day sort of fishing and fishing for cruisans and

stuff and living where i lived there was a few nice ponds in the area and it was sort of just all

went from that one little pond really and anywhere i could bike to that had a you know had a carp in

there i'd get my rods on my bike and I'd go

I think some of the early stuff I want to pick up on

perhaps give a little bit of insight into how serious you were

quite early is the Dutch stuff

I know we're skipping forward a bit straight away but

how big of an influence on your cart fishing was Joe Taylor, a giant of a figure in the tackle industry?

Oh, I've got a lot to thank Joe for. He was, you know, he, the canal in Holland was the 20 Canal.

It was very famous in the 80s. And when I went into the tackle shop one day and said, well, Joe, I've had enough of Clayton Lake. You know, I'd like to go and have a go somewhere else. Where can I go? And the first thing he said was, you should go and have a go on the canals. So a lot of time had passed since Joe had been there. And a lot had happened to the canals, but it still contains a really nice cup.

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