Gavin De Becker, Security Expert
Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin
Rick Rubin
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 117 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Tetragrammaton |
| 0:02.0 | Tetragrammaton |
| 0:07.0 | As I reflect on a long career, the cases that I look back at that are most interesting |
| 0:30.1 | are cases where I came to know the so-called perpetrator. |
| 0:35.7 | Years ago, I was hired by a big movie studio to be an expert witness in a case of a guy who |
| 0:41.6 | claimed that he wrote a particularly successful movie. |
| 0:45.0 | And he had, in fact, written something, and he had, in fact, sent it to the studio. |
| 0:49.0 | I would say it wasn't identical to what ultimately happened, but he didn't get any traction with the studio because he said, I have to be the star of this movie. And they said, well, he's crazy, right? Well, it wasn't crazy when Sylvester Stallone did the exact same thing. Yeah. Sylvester Stallone wrote Rocky and he said, I'm not going to sell it to you unless I'm the star and of course that was nuts the guy had never |
| 1:11.2 | you know been in a movie and and I had no apparent reason to believe that he would be successful |
| 1:16.5 | it wasn't crazy when you know Eddie Murphy said I want to be the guy in you know coming to |
| 1:22.2 | America and there was a time when Eddie Murphy was some 19 year old who thought he should end up on |
| 1:27.0 | TV and thought he was talented enough to do so. |
| 1:30.4 | So it isn't inherently, you know, that case I ended up not testifying in because I could |
| 1:36.9 | not make the case that the guy's aspiration and ambition made him crazy. |
| 1:42.8 | I was not willing to make that case. |
| 1:44.5 | The other interesting case I want to share is that I had a case with a very prominent |
| 1:49.7 | client who came to meet with me and told me that he had had a phone relationship with a woman, |
| 1:59.2 | and it happened when he was touring around the country. And as you know, you get |
| 2:03.5 | off stage and you're all jazzed up and full of adrenaline. But where are you? You're now in a |
| 2:09.6 | holiday inn near the venue, or in the case of my client, slightly better hotels, but you're alone. |
| 2:15.5 | And it's two in the morning. And you in the morning and you miss your wife and you miss |
| 2:18.6 | your family and you miss other people and you've just had this highly energizing engagement |
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