Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand, actually,

Rousal, controversial conspiracy theorist.

Trying to bring real journalism to the American people.

Hello there, you're awakening widest.

Thanks for joining me today for stay free with Russell Brand. I'm talking to Gavin DeBecca, who wrote that book there, you're awakening widens. Thanks for joining me today for stay free with Russell Brown.

I'm talking to Gavin DeBekker, who wrote that book there, Forbidden Facts, which is a study

not only of the pandemic period that uses information available from some of the regulatory

bodies that we empowered during that period to debunk the very ideas that they put forward,

like the efficacy of vaccines, the importance of social distancing, but also the precedent

to that period that was established through institutions like the Institute of Medicine that

appear to me to be little more than a rubber stamping organization that says

what the government need them to say for people to take the medications that they need them to take

or not have the lawsuits that they might otherwise undertake were it not for the Institute of Medicine.

This is an incredible conversation. Gavin DeBekker is a free time presidential appointee. He's worked for

governments. He's a criminologist and he approaches the a free time presidential appointee. He's worked for governments.

He's a criminologist and he approaches the subject of the pandemic and vaccines. It seems to me at least, not from the perspective of a doctor, but from the perspective of a

criminologist. And if you look at the period of the pandemic, that perhaps might be a better

approach. Because it seems, when you read that book, sorry, that book,

but what took place during the pandemic period was an unprecedented crime. Let me know what

you think. It's an extraordinary conversation. You're going to learn a great deal from it. I know I did.

Wherever you're watching it, join us on Rumble. And if you want to get Gavin De Becker's book, click the link in the description. We'll be giving away some as well. No, we won't. We've not sorted out of that competition. You're going to just simply have to buy it. Here's my conversation with Gavin Debecker. Thanks for joining us today, Gavin Debecker, to talk about your book, Forbidden Facts, Subtitle, to Be discussed and Potentially Ortered.

Thanks for joining me.

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