Gaurav Suri - The Emergent Mind: How Intelligence Arises in People and Machines
A Book with Legs
Smead Capital Management
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🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
What in the subconscious mind informs our actions, and what are our neural networks capable of that distinguishes them from machines such as LLMs?
Gaurav is a computational neuroscientist, experimental psychologist, and an associate professor at San Francisco State University. He also co-authored “A Certain Ambiguity: A Mathematical Novel” and holds a master's in mathematics and computer science and a PhD in psychology. Purchase “The Emergent Mind: How Intelligence Arises in People and Machines” here: https://www.amazon.com/Emergent-Mind-Intelligence-Arises-Machines/dp/1541605268
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to A Book with Legs, a podcast presented by Smead Capital Management. |
| 0:07.9 | At Smead Capital Management, we advise investors who play the long game. |
| 0:12.3 | You can learn more at Smeadcap.com or by calling your financial advisor. |
| 0:24.1 | Welcome to a book with legs podcast. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm Cole Smead, CEO and portfolio manager here at Smead Capital Management. |
| 0:34.1 | At our firm, we are readers, and we believe in the power of books to help shape informed investors. |
| 0:37.4 | In this podcast, we speak to great authors about their writings. The late great |
| 0:38.5 | Charlie Munger prescribed using multiple mental models and analysis. We analyze their work |
| 0:43.1 | through the lens of business, markets, and people. Today, we will discuss the human mind, |
| 0:49.3 | how it works and how it learns. This will give us a lens to view how large language models have come to be. |
| 0:55.5 | What are their strengths and weaknesses? Ultimately, we will understand what makes all of this so |
| 1:02.0 | human, I would argue. Garav Surrey is joining us to discuss his recently published book that he co-authored |
| 1:07.8 | with James McClellan titled The Emergent Mind, How Intelligence |
| 1:12.3 | Arises in People and Machines. |
| 1:14.9 | A little background for our audience on Grav. |
| 1:17.3 | He is a computational neuroscientist and an experimental psychologist. |
| 1:22.0 | He is an associate professor at San Francisco State University and distinguished scientists |
| 1:26.6 | at the center of effective science |
| 1:28.4 | at Stanford University. Grave is also, he's also co-authored another book, A Certain Ambiguity in 2007. |
| 1:36.5 | He has a master's in mathematics and computer science and a PhD in psychology from Stanford. |
| 1:42.4 | Grav, thanks for joining me today. |
| 1:44.9 | Thank you. |
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