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So True with Caleb Hearon

Gaten Matarazzo Loves Pizza

So True with Caleb Hearon

Wave

Comedy

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Gaten Matarazzo! Gaten and Caleb talk growing up in the public eye, weird encounters in bathrooms, the proper ways to grieve, Star Wars, and much more! Watch PIZZA MOVIE starring Gaten and Caleb on Hulu April 3rd!  Join our Substack for ad free full episodes, early access to merch, our community chat, and more! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/  Follow Gaten! @gatenmatarazzo Follow the show! @sooootruepod  Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings  Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Head to https://turbotax.com to find a store location near you and get matched with a TurboTax expert — with real-time updates in the iOS app.  Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Head to https://RULA.com to find a therapist the easy way.  Get $29 denim when you sign up as a NEW VIP at https://Fabletics.com/sotrue Head to https://squarespace.com/sotrue for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use OFFER CODE: SoTrue to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. So True with Caleb Hearon is edited and engineered by Nicole Lyons. Our social media manager is Virginia Muller. All episodes are filmed in The So Trudio at Legitimate Business World Headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.  A Wave series. wavesportsandentertainment.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Wave.

0:02.0

I also don't want to discount or imply that I am like rolling my eyes or scoffing at people who are very intensely faithful or spiritual.

0:13.0

No, because their money is green.

0:15.0

Still stream pizza movie.

0:17.0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, please, please.

0:19.0

If you're a devout Catholic, still stream pizza movie. I'm not rolling my eyes at you. For sure. Today's episode is presented by Intuit TurboTex. Now this is Texas. Gaten, how's it going? It's doing very well, Caleb. How are you? Dude, I'm so glad you're here. Me too. This is a delight to me. This is a delight to me as well. How did this come about? Something happened at Southby, did it not? I think so. Oh, it was Billy. We were sitting in the hotel and Billy goes, Caleb, you have to have G gate on your podcast. I went, I said, Billy, we'll sort this.

0:58.1

I wanted to be clear.

0:59.8

Like, he brought it up.

1:01.1

The way he brought it up, it seemed like it was such an awkward way of bringing it up.

1:06.6

Because it seemed very much like I was like, will you say something?

1:30.9

Can you please stand up for me, stand up for me? I swear I didn't, but it seemed like the way he said, he was like, oh, Caleb, you should have, you should have given. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing where you're like, it's kind of like when you were a kid and you wanted to ask to like sleep over at a friend's house and you'd be like, my mom's not going to go for it unless you ask. Exactly. What if Caden stayed over tonight?

2:02.5

Do you guys think I was so embarrassed I was like you blew up my spot for no reason I didn't even say anything not at all no I'm thrilled to have you here I'm glad to be here I'm so glad we met making pizza movie yes indeed for Hulu for Hulu indeed in weird little hot warehouse on your first day. Weird little hot warehouse. I showed up. I had such a funny experience meeting you for that because I filmed my HBO special the night before, went out, like, celebrated with everyone. A trooper for doing that. Filming a special is like a fucking crazy undertaking. I had also thrown, not thrown my back out,

2:07.5

but like I had gone for a really long bike ride the day before filming the special.

2:12.6

Oh. Because I wanted to like move and feel like get some stress out and I hurt my back really fucking bad. Where was it? Where would you? It was in Chicago. Oh, cool. I filmed in Chicago at like a DIY music venue that we like turned into a venue. Katie Birmingham, who designed this set, designed this like, indeed. Black box DIY venue to make it look so cute. But then I filmed the special with a really fucking hurt back. And then the next morning at like 7 a.m. I had to fly to Syracuse and get off the plane and come straight to you and start filming this fucking movie. And so I was in such a, I mean, I wasn't, I was trying not to show up, but I was in such a bad movie. Because I got there. They hadn't told me this comes out after the movie comes out. The movie comes out tomorrow. Okay. So I won't spoil. I I won't spoil anything because people haven't seen. That's very nice. Crazy. Comes out tomorrow from this episode.

2:54.6

From the episode. Okay, okay. But I got there and had to get into this crazy get-up that I wasn't aware I was going to be wearing. I felt so bad. When I found out you didn't, when I found out you didn't know, my heart sank into my stomach. I was like, I just felt terrible because I knew you were coming back from the special. Everyone was making a whole deal of it. Everyone was talking about how excited we were about you coming by, especially under the circumstances. And my first question to Nick and Brian was, what's the, what's Caleb's first scene? And then they told me, it was like, he's going to be so pissed. And I was not pissed. I was just like, I was tired and confused. And when you guys see the movie, you'll, you'll understand what I had to do. But day one, they were like, yeah, it's really, it's a really intense makeup that we need to do. And then we got to get you in this crazy hot costume in this warehouse in the summer with no AC. And I was like, I'm usually very like, on set. I'm usually very like trying to play music and like keep the energy up. And when they started putting the costume on me, I was like, all right, let's get this quick. To Nick and Brow was like, let's get this shot. Let's get the image that we need. And wasn't there like, wasn't there an established time frame in which you had to be in and out of the costume because it was so hot? Were they like, we need to get all of this done. They were very kind to do that. They were very kind to do that. Yeah, they were, they were being very, very sweet because that was the only thing I had to do that day. Thank God. And they were very sweet to be like, hey, it's really hot. We should do this quick. Yeah. Which was nice. Which is nice.

4:17.4

But it was so fun

4:18.0

making that movie. It was so much fun making that movie. Do you love it? I had a blast. Oh, it was great. I loved, the first time I saw it was at Southby when we were all seeing it together, which is really, really exciting.

4:27.1

And I was stoked for it.

4:28.6

I think for a while,

4:29.4

Nick and Brian know this.

4:30.5

I feel comfy saying this,

4:31.5

is that I was terrified of it.

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