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Deadline: White House

“Gaslit in real time”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Government, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Msnbc, Versant, The White House, Washington Dc

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Ayman Mohyeldin - in for Nicolle Wallace - discusses new comments from the ex-president’s attorney giving insight into his possible defense in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation of his efforts to overthrow the 2020 election, threats from the ex-president against his legal adversaries, the national security threat that could pose, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’ latest comments on the outcome of the 2020 election after dodging the question for years, and more. Joined by: Andrew Weissmann, Frank Figliuzzi, Jackie Alemany, Greg Bluestein, Tim Miller, Maya Wiley, Charlie Sykes, Mary McCord, Donell Harvin, Molly Duane, and Dahlia Lithwick.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It is 4 o'clock in New York. I'm Ayman Mahidin in for Nicole Wallace.

0:10.9

Special counsel Jack Smith is letting nothing slide in his criminal case against the former

0:15.3

president for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. On Friday night, prosecutors

0:19.9

asked federal judge Tanya Chutkin who is overseeing the case to impose a so-called protective

0:25.4

order, preventing Trump from publicly releasing evidence that would be handed over to his lawyers

0:31.1

in the discovery process, citing recent threats made by Donald Trump and what has become

0:36.0

a years-long practice of threatening anyone who tries to hold him accountable.

0:40.9

Now in their motion for a protective order, the Justice Department says quotes such a

0:45.4

restriction is particularly important in this case because the defendant has previously

0:50.8

issued public statements on social media regarding witnesses, judges, attorneys, and other

0:56.1

associates and legal matters pending against him. And in recent days, regarding this case,

1:01.5

the defendant has issued multiple posts, either specifically or by implication, including

1:07.6

the following, which the defendant posted just hours ago.

1:12.0

If you go after me, I'm coming after you. The filing, including a screenshot of that

1:17.5

ominous threat, prosecutors went on to say that, quote, if the defendant were to begin

1:22.6

issuing public posts using details or, for example, grand jury transcripts obtained

1:28.7

in discover here, it could have a harmful chilling effect on witnesses or adversely

1:34.6

affect the fair administration of justice in this case. Now that request by the special

1:40.4

counsel triggered a battle between team Trump and the DOJ. Here's how the New York Times

1:45.8

describes that. First, John F. Laura, one of Mr. Trump's lawyers, filed court papers

1:51.5

to Judge Chutkin asking her to push back the deadline to object to the protective order

1:57.4

until Thursday. Mr. Smith's team shot back, telling Judge Chutkin that the government

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