All right, Vayner Nation, a very exciting podcast.

I'm sure you're seeing it in the title.

Got a great entrepreneur with me, talking about a fun project that we did together,

and then just kind of talking about him and his journey and the game.

And so what most drives me to want to do this podcast is I think he represents all of us.

Like it's just a real story.

All of us on the other side of this podcast are fucking living,

trying to figure it out,

trying to build,

trying to grind.

Every one of us has our advantages and our vulnerabilities.

And I'm excited about this podcast,

so my man, how are you?

I'm great.

Thank you for having me.

Why don't you tell everybody who you are and what you do um i'm will from canvas uh canvas mk tg founder of uh pocket mounts and um i'm a collector i'm a collector uh was always that, the nerdy black dudes, you know, like Pokemon.

And, but growing up in the town that I grew up in, like, that stuff was frowned upon.

How old are you now, well?

I'm 37.

You know, it's crazy.

I'm 49. Isn't it crazy that, crazy that like to your point because I grew up in

lower middle class very urban areas most of my life it's crazy to watch comic anime like like

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