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Vayner Nation, how are you?

Welcome to the podcast.

There are very few people on earth

that I'm willing to break New Year's resolutions.

My New Year's resolution,

one of the silly ones, was to not do virtual...

Excuse me.

By the way, Russian superstition,

if you sneeze, it means what you're saying is true. So this is really, really working here for me. My New Year's resolution was not to do any virtual podcast this year. Guy reached out. He's got a new book. He's one of the great authors in business and culture and tech. I said, guy, awesome. Please come through. Like, I'm really trying to hold the line. He goes, Gary in reverse, I'm not traveling, which I remembered we've talked about in the past. I said, I just can't say no to this guy. I like him too much. I admire him too much. So here we are, Vayner Nation. Guy, how are you, my friend? I'm good. Thank you very much for breaking your rule. I understand it's a slippery slope and

you know, I won't tell Adam Grant or I won't tell any of these guys that you broke the rule for me.

Okay. I appreciate. Guy, why don't you tell everyone here for the small part of my audience that doesn't

know you or your legendary career maybe one minute on that

but then more importantly we're here to talk about a new book and let's talk about what it is and what

it's about okay i started my career in silicon valley in at apple basically so after a short career

well actually not so short a career in the jewelry manufacturing business where I schlep golden diamonds.

I went and became software evangelist for the Mac division, convincing people to write Mac software

and create Mac hardware. So I worked at Apple in the Mac division. I left. I came back as Apple's

chief evangelist. I left. I started some tech companies. And today, I am

chief evangelist of Canva, which is something that Gary and I know and love, and I'm going to make a lot of

money on. Here come the New York Jets, baby. And also, i have the host of a podcast called remarkable people

that's what i do right now how many books have you written uh this is the 16th book and gary i got

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