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This is Reasons to Be cheerful with Ed Millivand and Jeff Lloyd.

Hello, are you okay? You look so bedraggled.

Oh, you cycled here in the rain this morning.

Yes, my lunch fell out of my rocks. I left my rocks I go and

you'd pack yourself some tomatoes in the sandwich, but the sandwich survived.

You managed to retrieve it. So you were jettisoning items as you cycled along.

Yeah, I think I might have lost a banana on the way.

And you tomato's got squashed? The tomatoes were right off, yeah.

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