I actually think the blockchain's relationship with AI

is actually going to make a lot of Normies understand the value of the blockchain,

a ledger of truth and ownership in a world of deep fakes and fake and fake and fake and fake

and fake.

I think the blockchain is going to shine with this AI overlay in society.

Gary, welcome to Gen C.

Literally since the first episode when Avery and I started the podcast, we were like,

the ideal guest will be Gary,

and of course now that she's no longer one of her co-hosts.

I waited.

Yeah, exactly.

But we do wish her the best.

Gary, I wanna just start with,

this is like such an unprecedented time in business.

You are someone that a lot of people go to to say what's going to be next.

So in a world of AI in 2026, with all the kind of chaos that seems to be happening,

how are you managing both your brand and all the related companies as well as all of your clients?

What are you talking about?

You know, I think with thoughtful optimism while trying to be very strategic about the

humility that needs to be deployed by anyone that has it going well.

You know, I think a lot about the mid-90s right before the internet really became a consumer trend.

There was just a lot of companies that felt remarkable, I think about Toys R Us quite a bit,

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