Gary Neville: The Triumph and Tragedy of the Busby Babes - It Was What It Was
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🗓️ 7 February 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
We've got an extra treat for you this week: Gary Neville joins our football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
The former Manchester United captain looks back on one of the most momentous and tragic events in football history: The Munich air disaster of 1958.
Neville discusses the lasting significance of the tragedy - and how Sir Matt Busby rebuilt the club, leading them to European Cup glory just a decade after its darkest day.
If you want to know more about the game’s greatest characters, matches that changed football forever, and the stories behind the bribes, the bans, and the on-pitch battles - this is the podcast for you! Join two of the world’s best football journalists - Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper - at football university.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, it's Gary Neville here. |
| 0:01.7 | This week, I'm on our football history podcast. |
| 0:04.4 | It Was What It Was, to talk about one of the most important and tragic events in football history, |
| 0:10.0 | the Munich Air Disaster. |
| 0:11.9 | In each episode, two of the UK's best football journalists, |
| 0:15.4 | Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson will tell you more about the history of the game, |
| 0:19.5 | with new twists on well-known tales |
| 0:21.5 | and many stories you won't have heard anywhere before. |
| 0:25.2 | Subscribe to It Was What It Was, wherever you get your podcasts, and take a trip to Football University. |
| 0:42.8 | Welcome to It Was What It Was with me, Rob Draper and with Jonathan Wilson. |
| 0:51.0 | And we're recording this on Monday, February 3rd, just a few days before the 67th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster. |
| 0:55.9 | The Munich Air Disasters, of course, principally a tragedy for the people involved and their families, but it is also an event that arguably defines modern British and European |
| 1:01.7 | history and, of course, Manchester United's history itself. And to introduce a three-part history |
| 1:07.6 | that we will be doing on the Munich Air Disaster, we're joined by someone who would have learned about this event and its significance |
| 1:14.5 | from very earliest childhood, who's bound up in the Manchester United Community, |
| 1:19.1 | a season ticket holder as a child who went on to represent the club at youth level |
| 1:22.9 | and then win the treble, including eight Premier League's three FA Cups, |
| 1:27.3 | two World Club Cups and two |
| 1:29.0 | Champions League. There's arguably few people better able to articulate and understand what the |
| 1:35.5 | Munich Air disaster means to Manchester United than Gary Neville. Gary, welcome to the show. |
| 1:40.4 | That's great to be here, Rob, in this obviously very important week that comes around every year from Manchester United. |
| 1:47.1 | So, Gary, I'm somebody who's a complete outsider in this. |
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