How are you? Good, how are you? Are we good? Thanks for doing this, no, no, it's

really good. No, it's great to see you in there. Do you know this part of the world at all? No. How did you find this place? So my parents brought us here every single year when we're growing up.

They love the late districts.

They went on the honeymoon there. And so I've been here so many times. And this, we're literally over there. I think we're going to walk around to where we were. And then we can't see them yet. The Langdale Pikes are my mom's favorite mountains. It's beautiful. So you spent most of your actual childhood here as a kid on holidays? Every year.

How long for?

Two weeks.

Oh wow. at the Langdale Pikes of my mom's favorite mountains. It's beautiful, then. So you spent most of your actual childhood here as a kid on holidays?

Every year.

How long for? Two weeks. Oh, wow. Same cottage. My mom and dad. So walking, basically. Yeah. I mean, that is the... It's obviously beautiful, but as you probably know, my mom was really ill. Yeah. So she had this stills disease when she was 11th.

What is stills disease?

It's like very aggressive juvenile arthritis.

Right. You probably know my mum was really ill. Yeah. So she had this stills disease when she was in 11.

What is stills disease?

It's like very aggressive juvenile arthritis. Right. That attacks your joints. Okay. So you can't use them. Right. And so she was told age 11, you're not going to walk by the time you're 20. You're not going to have children by the time you're 20. then they discovered this steroid drug for the first cortisone

when she was a teenager. That's the thing the footballers have, I think, actually. So she was the first person. They said, do you want to try it? Yeah. She said, I'll try it. And it made sure she could walk for another 10 years, 15 years. She could have kids. but then it's very, I mean, it's like very strong steroids.

In the end, she lost a leg. She had to have a leg amputated because she fell and it would never recover. And in the end, the very, very end, she was in a wheelchair for quite a while. The very end, she couldn't get out of bed, couldn't eat.

It was so normal for us that mum was ill. You know, she'd take drugs every day for various ailments, couldn't walk. Everything was built around what she could do. But I didn't really think about that at the time. It was only when I was 13. Yeah. And I suddenly told she's not going to make it. I mean, she did make it in the act.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, that must have had such an impact on your child,

being told that at that age. Because it is young that, to have to hear that message. It is, it is. And also, because mum was... You never quite knew when she was going to be really ill. And if she had to go to hospital, it was always a very bad situation. My dad sort of devoted himself to her. What was your relationship like with your dad?

Because I... I had to go to hospital, it was always a very bad situation. My dad sort of devoted himself to her.

What was your relationship like with your dad?

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